>>JUSTIN WROTE: >>Older women who desire a hormonal boost respond well to a >>progesterones >>such as nandrolone decanoate (brand name: Deca >>Durabolin). At a typical >>dosage of 50mg injected intramuscularly >>every 5th or 6th day women >>experience increased lean body mass, fat >>loss, increase in appetite, >>improved immune function, increased >>libido, and all sorts of things. >> >>My advice to women considering hormone replacement therapy is this: >> >>don't believe myself or Rachel. Try both methods for yourself. >> >>First try not using any form of HRT. Then try using a little >> >>nandrolone. Make sure your doctor is knowledgable with HRT and can >> >>watch for potential sides and manipulate your dosaging schedule >> >>accordingly. >GINNY RESPONDED: >Nandrolone is one hell of a long way from natural progesterone, and >not >something to be considered lightly. You betcha they'll increase >lean body >mass, along with aggressive tendencies, body hair, and >deeper voices. >Sure, go ahead and try steroids, if you want to >forever damage your >natural female characteristics, render yourself >illegal for participation >in recognized sport, and find everyday >shaving a necessity. > >This has nothing to do with leading a biologically and functionally >sound >life as a female human. And yeah, it probably feels great for a >while. But >I doubt it's an answer. Here we go again. First off, I never said or implied that any HRT program or any drug program should be considered lightly. You are correct in stating that nandrolone is a synthetic drug and that it's a long way from a natural progesterone. The cost/risk factor of synthetic progesterone vs natural progesterone is something that should definitely be discussed between doctor and patient before a HRT program is implemented. However, in every nandrolone HRT for women study to date, side effects are almost always very minimal. You are mistaken in stating that a proper nandrolone dose will increase aggressive tendencies, produce body hair, and deepen voices. These are typical scare tactics used by people against HRT. They tell women that a low dose of nandrolone will turn them into men. Nothing could be further form the truth. Virilization occurs only when one of two factors are present: 1. Taking too high of a dose 2. Taking the wrong type of steroid (too much DHT) Nandrolone is not a DHT (dihydrotestosterone) based steroids like anavar, primobolan, winstrol, testosterone cypionate, etc. It is DHN (dyhydronortestosterone) based. So it does not convert to DHT, not any dose. Sure, if a woman takes 200-400mg nandrolone per week (this is a typical dosage for the female fitness competitors), then she may notice virilization. But at a dosage of, say, 35mg injected once every 6 days, there will be hardly any virilization 99.9% of the time. As far as women not being able to compete in a recognizable sport, you are again wrong. If a woman is taking nandrolone at a low dosage for permanent HRT, and is under the supervision of a qualified medical professional, has a prescription, etc, then she will still be allowed to compete. There are a few exceptions like natural bodybuilding shows and the Olympics. If this applies to the patient, then they will want to take this into consideration before using nandrolone. (BTW, most older women don't compete in natural bodybulding or the Olympics so I doubt this is a concern for many.) Also, Ginny, I was unaware that you were so knowledgeable in what constitutes a "biologically and functionally sound life as a female human." If you have achieved such a pinnacle w/o the use of HRT, then good for you, but many women respond well to HRT, especially when it's done ~correctly.~ As far as anecdotal evidence, my grandmother started a HRT program 2 years ago. She takes 40mg nandrolone injected once every 12 days. She has noticed no virilization. She has also regained some of her libido at the age of 74. Instead of walking (actually, I would have called it stumbling) in the afternoons, she now jogs at a brisk pace. Her immune system has been strengthened. She's lost bodyfat even though she's type II diabetic. And she has gained about 4-6lbs of lean tissue from pumping iron. Not to mention increased bone density, better emotional function, and all sorts of these things. The quality of her lifestyle has been increased tenfold so I doubt she cares much that HRT has "nothing to do with leading a biologically and fuctionally sound life as a female human." You are also mistaken in saying that she will feel "great for a while" - implying that her boost is temporary. I belive she will feel great for the rest of your life. Now that I've just read through your post again, I've found a few other comments that irk me as well (ex: women having to shave if they use HRT). I will post again tomorrow with links to studies about nandrolne HRT for women, recommended books on HRT, and before and after pics of my grandmother. Normally I would go thru and tear these types of posts up, but I don't have time to gather my references right now, but I will do so tomorrow. :) Justin Hasselman