Hi Joy, Yes I agree with you sometimes there is a 'fine line' between the two. I find myself asking for handicapped seating at a concert (which can sometimes be the worst thing to do, because you get the 'worst' seat - but they put you on an aisle, because they think you need an aisle), and some people construe a handicapped 'show/concert' seat as being front row (which I don't mind a bit). It's funny - I called for seats to a concert in West Virginia one time, and asked for h/p seating......... the reply was sure, ok. Then she said "you are in a wheelchair, aren't you"? I said "no, I use a walker at times to get around, and cannot do steps". Her reply was - Our handicapped area is for wheelchairs ONLY!! Good grief!! I felt like telling her do you know how many people in this world are on braces, crutches, etc?? And they 'aren't' handicapped??? ARGH!! I tend to think that there is a fine line between pity vs privilege............. and the "pity" part for me comes in, when someone asks if they can help me - depending on what I'm doing, I just want to say - if I need help I will ask, but don't assume because I walk funny that I need help. I get there - just a little differently than some! I'd have loved to have been in your shoes - I really like Gore, and hope he gets elected! See ya Beth -- Don't forget to visit http://rvs.netporch.com/ for RVS fan pics, rvsfans starchat.net chat room, and instructions for the rvsfans mailing list.