On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:44:57 -0700 ginny wilken <[log in to unmask]> writes: > Well, I just read an article about humans having learned their > social skills from dogs and wolves. Ardeith writes: I wish! Dogs and wolves don't lie, don't kill their own kind (usually), and the alpha bitch will steal the pups from a beta bitch sometimes, but usually not to kill them.......dogs and wolves rarely kill a pup......the exceptions are usually when a bitch "knows" something is wrong with a pup and she rejects it or kills it............ Ginny wrote: Now, if these pack orders were carried into human life, only the alpha pair would breed, and any accidental offspring from other females would be destroyed by the group in a ritual. Ardeith writes: Only alpha bitches are supposed to breed.....but if a beta sneaks around and produces pups, the alpha is more likely to steal them to raise herself......which makes sense in the wolfish way because the alpha pair always have first choice of a kill......... Ginny wrote: What we have to figure out is if we started pairing off and becoming bonded with one mate early on, and if we did, if that would preclude casual sex the way folks like to pretend it does now. Lucy may have had more to offer than tubers... Ardeith writes: Bonobo chimps don't go into an estrus cycle.....the females are sexually active all the time.....as are human females...... The bonobos use sexual activity as a social tool to calm tense situations and to increase their bonds with one another.......we could do worse than follow the example of the bonobos................just imagine using the pleasures of sexual activity to calm tense situations at the United Nations! Special little rooms set up to take incensed delegates to......soft lighting, soothing music, smooth silky sheets, sensual pleasures......and the delegate returns to the conference table in a far more peaceful mood!!!! Just imagine that!! [log in to unmask] Walk The Path With Practical Feet! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.