Well, I probably can't do a very good job off the top of my head. You may want to look thru the Classic Collection by Arthur Jones at http://www.cyperpump.com. The bench press isn't very good b/c (1)small range of motion, (2)no stabilization involved, (3)only provides direct work for the anterior deltoids, not the chest. The dip has a much larger range of motion than the bench press, and you have to stabilize yourself as well so you get ab work in as a bonus. And you can't go very deep on the bench press b/c the barbell hits your chest, whereas on a dip, you can go much deeper so you get more range of motion. xx Justin xx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com