Thanks for the next layer Bobby.  I'm focussed elsewhere and not quite in
the fray.

I think the group could use a good discussion about "attitudes" and
"assumptions"--especially when we get fearful and confused about what we
don't know or know too little or know distortedly--especially about mental
and emotional matters.  Though we all have our own.

Politics can get rough and dirty.  McCain risks being smeared, especially
for what makes him so distinctive and decent.  In politics we take no
prisoners, in war, when we can, we do.  The Bush ethos sees winning as the
primary game--ya gotta win to govern.

I cherish your being passionate.  And I'm still heterosexual.

My sly point, not openly stated in my PISS post, is that after birth
everybody lives levels of PTS.  We're just not ripe to acknowledge.

S.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Bobby Greer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: PISS
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:28:33 EST
Fri, 3 Mar 2000 9:29:14 -0500

ISM.
  I am an independent and I have voted Democrat more than I've voted
Republican. I grew up in a military town(San Antonio) abd Auide Murphy's To
Hell and back is the only book I have read five times(I've seen the movie
countless times). According to his biography, Mur[hy really had PTSD after
he
went to Hollywood. He slept an average of two hours per night. This is to
say, I have always had a "thing" for war hero's. For very illogical reasons,
Murphy's book got me through my adolescent and was pivotal in helping me
achieve what I have. So, when you pit a war hero again some political hacks,
IHMO, there is no contest in my mind. Murphy had PTSD,  my cousin who fought
through Guadacanal had PTSD, my brother in law in Texas was in a Chinese
prison camp at the age of 18 as a result of the Chosen(sp?) Resrvoir fiasco
has some types of PTSD. But all of them are effective in life. The same goes
for McCain, IMHO. And when someone attacks them like Paul V (INEEDASWEETIE)
I
go balistic. No apolgies, I will do it again in a heart beat if provoked.

Bobby

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