Thank you jean-claude for your post on the "savage noble." It is true that guilt plays no productive role on either side of the environmental, or any other fence. It is better to look at things logically with what will do the most good for all, or at least with an attitude of enlightened self-interest. Enlightened self interest dictates that we protect the environment, and cease from the greedy exploitation of people and resources, in order to have a decent world that future generations of plants, animals, and people can inherit. By introducing a new dietetic paradigm to as many people as possible, not as "evangelists" but as enlightened informed consumers and individuals interested in improving the quality of health and living, we set in motion those things which will have far reaching wonderful and awful consequences. Wonderful in that overall health will improve, and the problems that go with ill health in a given population will slowly and surely diminish. This can have the "awful" consequences of changing our current economy. What will the pharmeceutical companies do with no one to push their drugs to? Or managed care with not enough people to fill their overpriced hospital beds? Surgeons will go begging and will have to give up their golf club memberships! Oncologists will be going into another line of business. Selling car insurance perhaps? What will the Multinational Agribusinesses do with no one to sell their corn and wheat and soy to? What about Coffee Beans and Canned Orange Juice? I dare say that Pork Bellies and Beef will go way up, so we'll have to find ways of "stocking" up on our own animals. Commodities will go topsy turvy, and if we've thought that the stock market has been volitile, we ain't seen nothin' yet! All we have to do is watch a few commercials to see that marketers pay a lot of attention to trends. The times I look in on my partner when he's watching the TV and see the commercials I see that all the food commercials are for carbohydrates and fast foods and empty calories. They're still lulling people with terms like "fat free" and "heart healthy." While those of us benefitting from the elimination of these things continue to be a mostly very quiet "revolution" gaining power slowly in it's grass roots continuation. Dr. Atkins was right on 30 years ago when he called his program a diet revolution. We are the beneficiaries of all that research and the ridicule from the status quo. Change has always been the only inevitability.