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A Frightening Ordeal=20

  By Brian Ross and David Scott

  A I K E N C O U N T Y, S.C. Jan. 28 - A few weeks after Gary McClain =
started a union-organizing campaign at his South Carolina plant last =
summer, the local sheriff got a phone call.
  As a result, McClain was apprehended at gunpoint, detained, denied a =
lawyer, drugged and declared mentally ill.=20
  "This is over the top!" says labor lawyer Michael Gottesman, "This is =
so awful . so terrifying that it's absolutely going to silence any =
effort to form a union at this workplace."=20
  Gottesman should know. Twenty-five years ago, he argued the case of =
nuclear worker Karen Silkwood before the U.S. Supreme Court.=20

  A Call to Unionize

  McClain worked for the local plant of the oil products giant, Tenneco, =
in Aiken County, S.C., for 17 years, with no history of violence on or =
off the job.=20
  Last year, he and a few co-workers began to fear for their jobs when a =
new plant manager announced workers would have to pass a battery of =
technical exams or be fired. They contacted the International Union of =
Operating Engineers, and McClain quickly emerged as their leader.=20
  "You hear 'em out on the floor talking about it, saying, well, we need =
a union here. I just got fed up," McClain says. "I wasn't just gonna =
talk about getting one in, I was gonna try my best to get one in."=20

  Involuntary Commitment

  McClain's organizing campaign was still in its infancy last July when =
he challenged plant manager Joe Garrison at a company meeting to allow a =
union representative to speak to the work crews. The very next day, =
Tenneco called the local sheriff reporting that McClain was threatening =
workers and expressed concern that he might be an imminent danger in the =
workplace.=20
  Hours later, as he drove to work, McClain found himself surrounded at =
gunpoint by sheriff's deputies and a K-9 unit. Instead of arresting =
McClain, who had committed no crime, deputies took him to the local =
hospital where, apparently, on the basis of his employer's claims passed =
on by sheriff's deputies, an emergency-room doctor involuntarily =
committed him to a mental hospital.=20
  McClain spent the following two weeks in confinement being forcibly =
injected with anti-psychotic drugs before legal intervention gained his =
release.=20

  Tenneco: McClain a Threat

  Tenneco's Garrison says the company isn't responsible for McClain's =
confinement. The company, he added, took no action other than making the =
sheriff aware of its concerns about McClain after he says he received =
complaints from unnamed employees.=20
  "Members of my staff relayed concerns and fears from employees," =
Garrison tells 20/20. But in the course of our hour-long interview, he =
was unable to site one specific instance of violence or threat by =
McClain.=20

  Privacy Concerns

  McClain's involuntary commitment also raises critical issues of =
workplace privacy. Our investigation found that Tenneco executives used =
McClain's personnel file to contact his primary care physician.=20
  Documents obtained by 20/20 show that a Tenneco official then called a =
psychiatrist McClain says previously treated him for depression. =
According to that psychiatrist, the executive, who had never met =
McClain, described him as exhibiting "paranoid thoughts and behavior."=20
  According to Aiken County Sheriff Howard Sellers, Tenneco passed this =
profile along with the unspecified threats attributed to McClain on to =
Sellers who swiftly deployed the SWAT team.=20
  "It's the sort of thing that went on in the Soviet Union, except the =
Soviets did it with a bit more due process," says psychiatrist and =
Georgetown University law professor Gregg Bloche of the McClain case.=20
  Bloche, who has studied workplace privacy extensively, believes =
current law does not protect American workers from intrusion by =
employers into the private records of their workers.=20
  "That's what 160 million Americans who get their health insurance =
through the workplace need to be worried about," says Bloche.=20

  Unresolved Issues

  For his part, Sellers says he acted responsibly on the information he =
received from Tenneco, noting that the company did not make him aware of =
McClain's role in the union battle. Because Aiken County has been hard =
hit by workplace violence, with two fatal shootings in recent years, =
Sellers says every report of a potential threat is taken seriously.=20
  Since his release, McClain has been evaluated by a court-appointed =
psychiatrist who said no further treatment was needed. Tenneco continues =
to bar him from returning to work, while the National Labor Relations =
Board considers the case, and a private civil rights lawsuit is being =
brought against the company and the sheriff.

Whispers at Work=20

20/20=20

Friday, Jan. 28, 2000=20

(This is an unedited, uncorrected transcript.)=20

  Prepared by Burrelle's Information Services, which takes sole =
responsibility for accuracy of transcription.

  BARBARA WALTERS Good evening and welcome to 20/20 FRIDAY. You are =
about to meet a man who lived through a terrifying ordeal, all because =
his boss made one phone call. The man was handcuffed, drugged, locked up =
in a mental ward against his will. And why? He says simply because he =
spoke up at work. Chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has a =
frightening story for any worker.=20

  BRIAN ROSS, ABCNEWS (VO) In the small rural county in South Carolina =
where his family has lived since the Revolutionary War, Gary McClain has =
driven the same road to the same job, to the same factory for some 17 =
years. Until one day last summer.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN I was going through New Ellenton on Highway 19.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) The day Gary McClain became labeled an imminent =
threat, a possible workplace time bomb.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN There was, at least, six patrol cars stopped me right in =
the middle of the road, yelling, 'Turn off your truck. Get out of the =
truck and keep your hands where we can see them.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) It was the beginning of a trip into a dark world =
filled with innuendo, fear and the power of a big corporation.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN The officers was coming from this direction, from that =
direction, from my side and behind me.=20

  BRIAN ROSS With guns?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN With guns drawn.=20

  BRIAN ROSS How?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Aimed at me.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) In the course of less than an hour, 45-year-old Gary =
McClain, a man with no criminal record, no record of violence on the =
job, would be handcuffed, detained, refused a lawyer, drugged and =
involuntarily committed as mentally ill.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN It was like a nightmare. I mean, but it-it was really =
happening to you.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) McClain is a church-going man, well-read and =
thoughtful. Unmarried, he says the only mental health problems he ever =
had involved counseling for depression and a few visits a year to a =
local psychiatrist, something millions of Americans do.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN And I went over there voluntarily, because I was having =
trouble with some depression.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) But his confidential mental health record would later =
be distorted and used against him. McClain worked for the huge oil =
products conglomerate Tenneco at Tenneco's plastic packaging plant in =
Beach Island, South Carolina, which produces plastic food trays and =
Hefty plastic plates, a Tenneco brand name.=20

  JOE GARRISON The plant employs a little over 250 employees...=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) It was plant manager Joe Garrison who, along with =
Tenneco corporate executives, made the decision to call the sheriff, =
based on what Garrison says were complaints from other workers.=20

  JOE GARRISON Members of my staff relayed concerns and fears from =
employees that talked to them.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Yet, in the course of an hour-long interview with =
20/20, Garrison was unable to cite a single concrete threat or statement =
made by McClain, referring only to the vague hearsay complaints of =
employees and managers whose names and positions Garrison refused to =
provide.=20

  JOE GARRISON There ar-are at least 20.=20

  BRIAN ROSS At least 20? Do you have a list somewhere?=20

  JOE GARRISON No, I don't.=20

  BRIAN ROSS And 20 people all said they were afraid of Gary McClain.=20

  JOE GARRISON They didn't-some said they were specifically afraid, but =
some said they were concerned.=20

  BRIAN ROSS What were they afraid of?=20

  JOE GARRISON They were afraid of working-of coming to work.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) But it turns out the great fear of Gary McClain began =
around the same time he became known at the plant for trying to organize =
a union, he says to protect older, higher-paid workers like himself. =
Wearing a red cap from the Operating Engineers of the AFL-CIO.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN I believe in standing up for what I believe in.=20

  BRIAN ROSS So you became very public about it?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Yeah, I became very vocal about it, too.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) It was July 28th last year when McClain, in front of =
everyone on his shift, challenged plant manager Joe Garrison over the =
union.
  The union you opposed?=20

  JOE GARRISON A union a-I opposed-yes, a-Gary raised his voice...=20

  BRIAN ROSS He interrupted you?=20

  JOE GARRISON He interrupted me.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN I asked him point-blank, I said, 'Why don't you let a =
union representative come in here and speak to all the crews?' And he =
said, 'We have enough of those in here already.' And he said, 'Dismiss.' =


  BRIAN ROSS You were on a collision course.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Oh, yes, I was-I was marked.=20

  BRIAN ROSS Did you have a gun?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN No. I didn't have any weapons.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) It was the very next day that Tenneco contacted the =
Aiken County Sheriff, which used a SWAT team, the canine team and the =
sheriff himself to take Gary McClain into custody as he drove to work, =
unarmed.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN They put me in handcuffs, they walked me to a patrol car. =
While I was sitting in the patrol car, this officer came over the air on =
the radio saying, 'We got that Tenneco package.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS 'We got that Tenneco package?'=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Yeah, he said 'that Tenneco package.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS Referring to you, you think?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Right. I was the Tenneco package.=20

  SHERIFF HOWARD SELLERS What they told us was this individual had =
frightened them and frightened co-workers.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Aiken County Sheriff Howard Sellers says it was the =
kind of report from a major company that he couldn't ignore. =
Particularly since the Aiken County area has twice in the last five =
years been the scene of workplace violence, with six people killed. =
Something Tenneco says was very much on the minds of its employees.=20

  JOE GARRISON They were saying things like, 'I don't want to sit next =
to a member of management in case Gary comes in and I'm in the line of =
fire.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS You have his personnel file available to you?=20

  JOE GARRISON There is a personnel file for Mr. McClain.=20

  BRIAN ROSS In that file, was there any incident in the last two or =
three years that would suggest he is this dangerous person?=20

  JOE GARRISON There's nothing in his file that I'm aware of that would =
suggest that.=20

  BRIAN ROSS You know there have been many cases where disgruntled =
employees at big companies, small companies...=20

  GARY MCCLAIN I know that, and that's what Tenneco's planned on. =
They're building up everybody's fears. You know, trying to make them =
think that I'm a dangerous person. And I-I'm not. I never threatened =
anybody out there.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Unlike Gary McClain, the alleged killers in the two =
shootings around Aiken County had records of specific threats and =
violence.=20

  HOWARD SELLERS We acted on-I think, responsibly with information we =
had at the time.=20

  BRIAN ROSS Did they tell you that he was active in trying to organize =
a union?=20

  HOWARD SELLERS No, they did not.=20

  JOE GARRISON I didn't tell-or the company didn't make the sheriff =
aware that this was a union supporter and that's why...=20

  BRIAN ROSS You withheld that information from him?=20

  JOE GARRISON I-it's not that we withheld it. It wasn't germane to our =
concerns.=20

  BRIAN ROSS Do you wish they had told you that?=20

  HOWARD SELLERS I think it would have been very helpful.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) As a legal justification to stop McClain, the sheriff =
used an unserved, four-year-old arrest warrant that grew out a feud with =
a neighbor. McClain, an avid outdoorsman, had fired his hunting rifle in =
the back of his yard.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN I had a bullet in the chamber, it would not come out, so =
I fired it because I didn't want to leave a live round in my chamber =
and, you know, have a loaded gun in the house like that.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) At the time, 1995, deputies ruled the complaint =
unfounded and the warrant the neighbor swore out sat ignored among =
thousands of such minor warrants in a bureaucratic backlog, until =
Tenneco called.
  As a practical matter, it wasn't really a high priority?=20

  HOWARD SELLERS No, it wasn't-it was a very low priority.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) In fact, the warrant wasn't even served when McClain =
was stopped. Instead of taking him to the county jail, the armed =
deputies delivered a handcuffed McClain to the county hospital for a =
mental evaluation.=20

  HOWARD SELLERS He appeared to be confused. He appeared to be =
agitated...=20

  BRIAN ROSS Wouldn't you be if you were stopped by your own SWAT team?=20

  HOWARD SELLERS Yes, sir. And we chose to have take the route of having =
him evaluated, to see if there was anything to this mental health =
allegation against him.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Based on hospital records, Tenneco's vague, unverified =
description of McClain as a threat appears to have been simply passed on =
by sheriff's deputies to the emergency room doctor and apparently =
accepted as evidence enough that McClain was mentally ill and posed a =
substantial risk to himself and others.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN They told me they was wanting me to take a shot. I don't =
know what kind of medication it was. And I told them, 'No, I'm not =
taking it.' So then, the nurse called in the two deputies to hold me. =
And they gave me the shot.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Under an emergency provision in South Carolina law, =
McClain was then taken by sheriff's deputies to a mental hospital where =
he would spend two weeks detained and drugged against his will before a =
judge finally released him.
  Did you think you'd ever get out of there?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN At the time, I di-I didn't know if I was going to get =
out. I said, 'I haven't done anything to be here.' You know, I-I'd speak =
up. But see, they looked at that as being mentally ill.=20

  BRIAN ROSS More evidence...=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Right.=20

  BRIAN ROSS ...that you were mentally ill?=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Because the more I denounced it, the more they-the more =
it convinced them, 'Oh, this man is sick. He's delusional.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) The hospital records tell the nightmare. "Patient =
denies allegations. Patient has an angry affect. Patient refuses =
medication."=20

  GARY MCCLAIN Here I was, you know, telling the truth, and nobody =
believed me. And I cried.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) A psychiatrist appointed by the judge to evaluate =
McClain has now said McClain is not in need of any further treatment. =
And McClain suing Tenneco and the sheriff for what he claims is a =
violation of his civil rights, a case gaining great attention in the =
American labor movement.=20

  MICHAEL GOTTESMAN This is, you know, over the top. I've never seen a =
company before literally get the local authorities to conspire to put an =
employee in a mental institution for doing this.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) We asked Georgetown University law professor Michael =
Gottesman, who's handled numerous union cases before the Supreme Court, =
including that of nuclear worker Karen Silkwood, to look at this case, =
which he called a new low in anti-union tactics.=20

  MICHAEL GOTTESMAN It's diabolically clever, because it accomplishes =
all the purposes that firing the employee would do, but it accomplishes =
even more. If we put him away in a mental institution, we've really shut =
him up. Who's going to step up and say, 'OK, I'm next. Since Gary is no =
longer here, I'm the one who's going to stand up and argue for why we =
should have a union.'=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) In fact, the union says its efforts to organize at the =
Tenneco plant have been stopped dead. We weren't allowed on the plant =
property and with security guards watching, most workers wouldn't stop =
to talk. One who did said McClain was a bit of a loner but no threat to =
anyone.
  Was he threatening people because of the union or...=20

  MAN No.=20

  BRIAN ROSS No?=20

  MAN They might have took it as a threat because of the way he is, =
because he is a pretty alone-a quiet person to his self.=20

  BRIAN ROSS Is he insane?=20

  MAN No.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) There are some Tenneco plants around the country which =
are unionized, and, since the case became public, Tenneco has maintained =
that what happened to Gary McClain had nothing to do with the union and =
was the sole responsibility of the sheriff's office.=20

  JOE GARRISON We gave them no encouragement, no suggestions. We a-we =
just made them aware of a situation that was going on in our plant.=20

  BRIAN ROSS You had nothing to do with him being locked up as mentally =
ill?=20

  JOE GARRISON Absolutely not.=20

  BRIAN ROSS You really believe that?=20

  JOE GARRISON I-I certainly believe that. I know that...=20

  BRIAN ROSS Are you saying that the position had as union organizer had =
nothing to do with it?=20

  JOE GARRISON It had nothing to do with it.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) But that's very much called into question by what a =
top Tenneco executive allegedly said when he contacted Gary McClain's =
personal psychiatrist in Aiken, South Carolina, using McClain's =
personnel records to do so. In a memo written the same day McClain was =
picked up, the psychiatrist says Tenneco's director of occupational =
health, a Dr. Burley, contacted him and described McClain as "very much =
involved in drumming up support for the union" and displaying "paranoid =
thinking a behaviors."
  Had the Dr. Burley ever met Gary McClain?=20

  JOE GARRISON I don't believe that Dr. Burley ever me-met Mr. McClain.=20

  BRIAN ROSS Did he ever examine him?=20

  JOE GARRISON If he didn't meet him, I don't think he could have =
examined him.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Nevertheless, according to the memo, the Tenneco =
doctor, Dr. Burley, from his office in New York, said he believed 'Mr. =
McClain suffered from a mental illness, appeared to be dangerous,' and, =
Dr. Burley said, he would be passing on his views to the sheriff to =
'initiate an involuntary commitment.' Tenneco would not permit Dr. =
Burley to talk with 20/20.=20

  PROFESSOR GREGG BLOCHE It is the sort of thing that went on in the =
Soviet Union. Except that the Soviets did it with a bit more due =
process.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) Law professor Gregg Bloche, also a psychiatrist, says =
the memo clearly shows that Tenneco was concerned about the union and =
raises serious questions about how big companies, like Tenneco, try to =
pry into employee health records.=20

  GREGG BLOCHE If you see a psychiatrist, if you just have something =
embarrassing that's physically wrong with you that you wouldn't want =
your employer and the world, potentially, to know, you don't have =
protection. That's what 160 million Americans who get their health =
insurance through the workplace need to be worried about.=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) At the request of the sheriff, the FBI has now been =
asked to investigate the case of Gary McClain, who hasn't worked a day =
since he was declared mentally ill.=20

  GARY MCCLAIN To be done that way and-and you know there's not anything =
wrong with you and for somebody to treat you like you're just some =
sicko, it hurts.=20

  BARBARA WALTERS Brian, Gary McClain is in his 40s and has years ahead =
in which to work. Is he employable?=20

  BRIAN ROSS Well, it's the kind of accusation that once made is-leaves =
a stigma very hard, if not impossible, to remove. And Gary wonders how =
to ever explain it to a future boss.=20

  BARBARA WALTERS So how do things stand now?=20

  BRIAN ROSS Well, Tenneco is paying him, but they won't let him on the =
property. And they won't give him his job back unless he sees a =
psychiatrist they appoint. Meantime, he's appealing to the National =
Labor Relations Board and a ruling could come very shortly.=20

  BARBARA WALTERS And if the ruling is in his favor, then they have to =
hire him back?=20

  BRIAN ROSS That's exactly right.=20

  BARBARA WALTERS Even though it might not be a very pleasant place for =
him to...=20

  BRIAN ROSS (VO) That's what he fears. Very tough situation for Gary.=20

  BARBARA WALTERS Tough situation all around. Thank you, Brian. I do =
want to tell our viewers that you and Dr. Gregg Bloche, who is one of =
the experts in Brian's report, are going to be available to chat online =
with anyone who has questions. Right after this program?


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  <P>A I K E N C O U N T Y, S.C. Jan. 28</B> &#8212; A few weeks after =
Gary McClain=20
  started a union-organizing campaign at his South Carolina plant last =
summer,=20
  the local sheriff got a phone call.<BR>As a result, McClain was =
apprehended at=20
  gunpoint, detained, denied a lawyer, drugged and declared mentally =
ill.=20
  <BR>"This is over the top!" says labor lawyer Michael Gottesman, "This =
is so=20
  awful &#8230; so terrifying that it&#8217;s absolutely going to =
silence any effort to form=20
  a union at this workplace." <BR>Gottesman should know. Twenty-five =
years ago,=20
  he argued the case of nuclear worker Karen Silkwood before the U.S. =
Supreme=20
  Court. </FONT></FONT></P><B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>A Call to =
Unionize</FONT></P></B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>McClain worked for the local =
plant of the=20
  oil products giant, Tenneco, in Aiken County, S.C., for 17 years, with =
no=20
  history of violence on or off the job. <BR>Last year, he and a few =
co-workers=20
  began to fear for their jobs when a new plant manager announced =
workers would=20
  have to pass a battery of technical exams or be fired. They contacted =
the=20
  International Union of Operating Engineers, and McClain quickly =
emerged as=20
  their leader. <BR>"You hear &#8217;em out on the floor talking about =
it, saying,=20
  well, we need a union here. I just got fed up," McClain says. "I =
wasn&#8217;t just=20
  gonna talk about getting one in, I was gonna try my best to get one =
in."=20
  </FONT></P><B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Involuntary =
Commitment</FONT></P></B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>McClain&#8217;s organizing =
campaign was still in=20
  its infancy last July when he challenged plant manager Joe Garrison at =
a=20
  company meeting to allow a union representative to speak to the work =
crews.=20
  The very next day, Tenneco called the local sheriff reporting that =
McClain was=20
  threatening workers and expressed concern that he might be an imminent =
danger=20
  in the workplace. <BR>Hours later, as he drove to work, McClain found =
himself=20
  surrounded at gunpoint by sheriff&#8217;s deputies and a K-9 unit. =
Instead of=20
  arresting McClain, who had committed no crime, deputies took him to =
the local=20
  hospital where, apparently, on the basis of his employer&#8217;s =
claims passed on by=20
  sheriff&#8217;s deputies, an emergency-room doctor involuntarily =
committed him to a=20
  mental hospital. <BR>McClain spent the following two weeks in =
confinement=20
  being forcibly injected with anti-psychotic drugs before legal =
intervention=20
  gained his release. </FONT></P><B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Tenneco: McClain a =
Threat</FONT></P></B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Tenneco&#8217;s Garrison says =
the company isn&#8217;t=20
  responsible for McClain&#8217;s confinement. The company, he added, =
took no action=20
  other than making the sheriff aware of its concerns about McClain =
after he=20
  says he received complaints from unnamed employees. <BR>"Members of my =
staff=20
  relayed concerns and fears from employees," Garrison tells =
<I>20/20.</I> But=20
  in the course of our hour-long interview, he was unable to site one =
specific=20
  instance of violence or threat by McClain. </FONT></P><B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Privacy =
Concerns</FONT></P></B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>McClain&#8217;s involuntary =
commitment also=20
  raises critical issues of workplace privacy. Our investigation found =
that=20
  Tenneco executives used McClain&#8217;s personnel file to contact his =
primary care=20
  physician. <BR>Documents obtained by <I>20/20</I> show that a Tenneco =
official=20
  then called a psychiatrist McClain says previously treated him for =
depression.=20
  According to that psychiatrist, the executive, who had never met =
McClain,=20
  described him as exhibiting "paranoid thoughts and behavior." =
<BR>According to=20
  Aiken County Sheriff Howard Sellers, Tenneco passed this profile along =
with=20
  the unspecified threats attributed to McClain on to Sellers who =
swiftly=20
  deployed the SWAT team. <BR>"It&#8217;s the sort of thing that went on =
in the Soviet=20
  Union, except the Soviets did it with a bit more due process," says=20
  psychiatrist and Georgetown University law professor Gregg Bloche of =
the=20
  McClain case. <BR>Bloche, who has studied workplace privacy =
extensively,=20
  believes current law does not protect American workers from intrusion =
by=20
  employers into the private records of their workers. <BR>"That&#8217;s =
what 160=20
  million Americans who get their health insurance through the workplace =
need to=20
  be worried about," says Bloche. </FONT></P><B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Unresolved =
Issues</FONT></P></B>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>For his part, Sellers says he =
acted=20
  responsibly on the information he received from Tenneco, noting that =
the=20
  company did not make him aware of McClain&#8217;s role in the union =
battle. Because=20
  Aiken County has been hard hit by workplace violence, with two fatal =
shootings=20
  in recent years, Sellers says every report of a potential threat is =
taken=20
  seriously. <BR>Since his release, McClain has been evaluated by a=20
  court-appointed psychiatrist who said no further treatment was needed. =
Tenneco=20
  continues to bar him from returning to work, while the National Labor=20
  Relations Board considers the case, and a private civil rights lawsuit =
is=20
  being brought against the company and the =
sheriff.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><B>
<P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D6>Whispers at Work =
</FONT></P></B></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"/onair/2020/2020Index.html"><B><I>20/20</B></I></A><B>=20
</B><BR><BR><B>Friday, Jan. 28, 2000</B> </FONT></FONT></P><I><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
<P>(This is an unedited, uncorrected transcript.)</I> =
</FONT></FONT></P><I><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow">
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <P>Prepared by Burrelle&#8217;s Information Services, which takes sole =

  responsibility for accuracy of transcription.</I><BR><BR><B>BARBARA=20
  WALTERS</B> Good evening and welcome to <I>20/20</I> FRIDAY. You are =
about to=20
  meet a man who lived through a terrifying ordeal, all because his boss =
made=20
  one phone call. The man was handcuffed, drugged, locked up in a mental =
ward=20
  against his will. And why? He says simply because he spoke up at work. =
Chief=20
  investigative correspondent Brian Ross has a frightening story for any =
worker.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS, ABCNEWS</B> (VO) In the small rural county in South =
Carolina=20
  where his family has lived since the Revolutionary War, Gary McClain =
has=20
  driven the same road to the same job, to the same factory for some 17 =
years.=20
  Until one day last summer. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> I was going through New Ellenton on Highway 19.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) The day Gary McClain became labeled an imminent =
threat,=20
  a possible workplace time bomb. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> There was, at least, six patrol cars stopped me =
right in=20
  the middle of the road, yelling, &#8216;Turn off your truck. Get out =
of the truck=20
  and keep your hands where we can see them.&#8217; =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) It was the beginning of a trip into a dark =
world filled=20
  with innuendo, fear and the power of a big corporation.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> The officers was coming from this direction, from =
that=20
  direction, from my side and behind me. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> With guns? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> With guns drawn. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> How? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Aimed at me. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) In the course of less than an hour, 45-year-old =
Gary=20
  McClain, a man with no criminal record, no record of violence on the =
job,=20
  would be handcuffed, detained, refused a lawyer, drugged and =
involuntarily=20
  committed as mentally ill. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> It was like a nightmare. I mean, but it&#8212;it =
was really=20
  happening to you. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) McClain is a church-going man, well-read and=20
  thoughtful. Unmarried, he says the only mental health problems he ever =
had=20
  involved counseling for depression and a few visits a year to a local=20
  psychiatrist, something millions of Americans do. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> And I went over there voluntarily, because I was =
having=20
  trouble with some depression. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) But his confidential mental health record would =
later=20
  be distorted and used against him. McClain worked for the huge oil =
products=20
  conglomerate Tenneco at Tenneco&#8217;s plastic packaging plant in =
Beach Island,=20
  South Carolina, which produces plastic food trays and Hefty plastic =
plates, a=20
  Tenneco brand name. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> The plant employs a little over 250 employees...=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) It was plant manager Joe Garrison who, along =
with=20
  Tenneco corporate executives, made the decision to call the sheriff, =
based on=20
  what Garrison says were complaints from other workers.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> Members of my staff relayed concerns and fears =
from=20
  employees that talked to them. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Yet, in the course of an hour-long interview =
with=20
  <I>20/20</I>, Garrison was unable to cite a single concrete threat or=20
  statement made by McClain, referring only to the vague hearsay =
complaints of=20
  employees and managers whose names and positions Garrison refused to =
provide.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> There ar&#8212;are at least 20. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> At least 20? Do you have a list somewhere?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> No, I don&#8217;t. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> And 20 people all said they were afraid of Gary =
McClain.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> They didn&#8217;t&#8212;some said they were =
specifically afraid, but=20
  some said they were concerned. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> What were they afraid of? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT =

  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> They were afraid of working&#8212;of coming to =
work.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) But it turns out the great fear of Gary McClain =
began=20
  around the same time he became known at the plant for trying to =
organize a=20
  union, he says to protect older, higher-paid workers like himself. =
Wearing a=20
  red cap from the Operating Engineers of the AFL-CIO.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> I believe in standing up for what I believe in.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> So you became very public about it?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Yeah, I became very vocal about it, too.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) It was July 28th last year when McClain, in =
front of=20
  everyone on his shift, challenged plant manager Joe Garrison over the=20
  union.<BR>The union you opposed? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> A union a&#8212;I opposed&#8212;yes, a&#8212;Gary =
raised his voice...=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> He interrupted you? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> He interrupted me. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> I asked him point-blank, I said, &#8216;Why =
don&#8217;t you let a=20
  union representative come in here and speak to all the crews?&#8217; =
And he said,=20
  &#8216;We have enough of those in here already.&#8217; And he said, =
&#8216;Dismiss.&#8217;=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You were on a collision course. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Oh, yes, I was&#8212;I was marked. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Did you have a gun? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> No. I didn&#8217;t have any weapons. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) It was the very next day that Tenneco contacted =
the=20
  Aiken County Sheriff, which used a SWAT team, the canine team and the =
sheriff=20
  himself to take Gary McClain into custody as he drove to work, =
unarmed.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> They put me in handcuffs, they walked me to a =
patrol car.=20
  While I was sitting in the patrol car, this officer came over the air =
on the=20
  radio saying, &#8216;We got that Tenneco package.&#8217; =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> &#8216;We got that Tenneco package?&#8217; =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Yeah, he said &#8216;that Tenneco package.&#8217;=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Referring to you, you think? =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Right. I was the Tenneco package.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>SHERIFF HOWARD SELLERS</B> What they told us was this individual =
had=20
  frightened them and frightened co-workers. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Aiken County Sheriff Howard Sellers says it was =
the=20
  kind of report from a major company that he couldn&#8217;t ignore. =
Particularly=20
  since the Aiken County area has twice in the last five years been the =
scene of=20
  workplace violence, with six people killed. Something Tenneco says was =
very=20
  much on the minds of its employees. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> They were saying things like, &#8216;I don&#8217;t =
want to sit next to=20
  a member of management in case Gary comes in and I&#8217;m in the line =
of fire.&#8217;=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You have his personnel file available to you?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> There is a personnel file for Mr. McClain.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> In that file, was there any incident in the last two =
or=20
  three years that would suggest he is this dangerous person?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> There&#8217;s nothing in his file that I&#8217;m =
aware of that would=20
  suggest that. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You know there have been many cases where =
disgruntled=20
  employees at big companies, small companies... =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> I know that, and that&#8217;s what Tenneco&#8217;s =
planned on. They&#8217;re=20
  building up everybody&#8217;s fears. You know, trying to make them =
think that I&#8217;m a=20
  dangerous person. And I&#8212;I&#8217;m not. I never threatened =
anybody out there.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Unlike Gary McClain, the alleged killers in the =
two=20
  shootings around Aiken County had records of specific threats and =
violence.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> We acted on&#8212;I think, responsibly with =
information we had=20
  at the time. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Did they tell you that he was active in trying to =
organize a=20
  union? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> No, they did not. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> I didn&#8217;t tell&#8212;or the company =
didn&#8217;t make the sheriff aware=20
  that this was a union supporter and that&#8217;s why... =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You withheld that information from him?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> I&#8212;it&#8217;s not that we withheld it. It =
wasn&#8217;t germane to our=20
  concerns. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Do you wish they had told you that?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> I think it would have been very helpful.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) As a legal justification to stop McClain, the =
sheriff=20
  used an unserved, four-year-old arrest warrant that grew out a feud =
with a=20
  neighbor. McClain, an avid outdoorsman, had fired his hunting rifle in =
the=20
  back of his yard. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> I had a bullet in the chamber, it would not come =
out, so I=20
  fired it because I didn&#8217;t want to leave a live round in my =
chamber and, you=20
  know, have a loaded gun in the house like that. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) At the time, 1995, deputies ruled the complaint =

  unfounded and the warrant the neighbor swore out sat ignored among =
thousands=20
  of such minor warrants in a bureaucratic backlog, until Tenneco =
called.<BR>As=20
  a practical matter, it wasn&#8217;t really a high priority?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> No, it wasn&#8217;t&#8212;it was a very low =
priority.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) In fact, the warrant wasn&#8217;t even served =
when McClain=20
  was stopped. Instead of taking him to the county jail, the armed =
deputies=20
  delivered a handcuffed McClain to the county hospital for a mental =
evaluation.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> He appeared to be confused. He appeared to be=20
  agitated... </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Wouldn&#8217;t you be if you were stopped by your =
own SWAT team?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>HOWARD SELLERS</B> Yes, sir. And we chose to have take the route of =
having=20
  him evaluated, to see if there was anything to this mental health =
allegation=20
  against him. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Based on hospital records, Tenneco&#8217;s =
vague, unverified=20
  description of McClain as a threat appears to have been simply passed =
on by=20
  sheriff&#8217;s deputies to the emergency room doctor and apparently =
accepted as=20
  evidence enough that McClain was mentally ill and posed a substantial =
risk to=20
  himself and others. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> They told me they was wanting me to take a shot. I =
don&#8217;t=20
  know what kind of medication it was. And I told them, &#8216;No, =
I&#8217;m not taking it.&#8217;=20
  So then, the nurse called in the two deputies to hold me. And they =
gave me the=20
  shot. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Under an emergency provision in South Carolina =
law,=20
  McClain was then taken by sheriff&#8217;s deputies to a mental =
hospital where he=20
  would spend two weeks detained and drugged against his will before a =
judge=20
  finally released him.<BR>Did you think you&#8217;d ever get out of =
there?=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> At the time, I di&#8212;I didn&#8217;t know if I =
was going to get out.=20
  I said, &#8216;I haven&#8217;t done anything to be here.&#8217; You =
know, I&#8212;I&#8217;d speak up. But=20
  see, they looked at that as being mentally ill. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> More evidence... </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Right. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> ...that you were mentally ill? =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Because the more I denounced it, the more =
they&#8212;the more it=20
  convinced them, &#8216;Oh, this man is sick. He&#8217;s =
delusional.&#8217;=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) The hospital records tell the nightmare. =
"Patient=20
  denies allegations. Patient has an angry affect. Patient refuses =
medication."=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> Here I was, you know, telling the truth, and =
nobody=20
  believed me. And I cried. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) A psychiatrist appointed by the judge to =
evaluate=20
  McClain has now said McClain is not in need of any further treatment. =
And=20
  McClain suing Tenneco and the sheriff for what he claims is a =
violation of his=20
  civil rights, a case gaining great attention in the American labor =
movement.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>MICHAEL GOTTESMAN</B> This is, you know, over the top. I&#8217;ve =
never seen a=20
  company before literally get the local authorities to conspire to put =
an=20
  employee in a mental institution for doing this. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) We asked Georgetown University law professor =
Michael=20
  Gottesman, who&#8217;s handled numerous union cases before the Supreme =
Court,=20
  including that of nuclear worker Karen Silkwood, to look at this case, =
which=20
  he called a new low in anti-union tactics. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>MICHAEL GOTTESMAN</B> It&#8217;s diabolically clever, because it =
accomplishes all=20
  the purposes that firing the employee would do, but it accomplishes =
even more.=20
  If we put him away in a mental institution, we&#8217;ve really shut =
him up. Who&#8217;s=20
  going to step up and say, &#8216;OK, I&#8217;m next. Since Gary is no =
longer here, I&#8217;m the=20
  one who&#8217;s going to stand up and argue for why we should have a =
union.&#8217;=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) In fact, the union says its efforts to organize =
at the=20
  Tenneco plant have been stopped dead. We weren&#8217;t allowed on the =
plant property=20
  and with security guards watching, most workers wouldn&#8217;t stop to =
talk. One who=20
  did said McClain was a bit of a loner but no threat to anyone.<BR>Was =
he=20
  threatening people because of the union or... =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>MAN</B> No. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> No? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>MAN</B> They might have took it as a threat because of the way he =
is,=20
  because he is a pretty alone&#8212;a quiet person to his self.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Is he insane? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>MAN</B> No. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) There are some Tenneco plants around the =
country which=20
  are unionized, and, since the case became public, Tenneco has =
maintained that=20
  what happened to Gary McClain had nothing to do with the union and was =
the=20
  sole responsibility of the sheriff&#8217;s office. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> We gave them no encouragement, no suggestions. We =
a&#8212;we=20
  just made them aware of a situation that was going on in our plant.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You had nothing to do with him being locked up as =
mentally=20
  ill? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> Absolutely not. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> You really believe that? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> I&#8212;I certainly believe that. I know that...=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Are you saying that the position had as union =
organizer had=20
  nothing to do with it? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> It had nothing to do with it. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) But that&#8217;s very much called into question =
by what a top=20
  Tenneco executive allegedly said when he contacted Gary =
McClain&#8217;s personal=20
  psychiatrist in Aiken, South Carolina, using McClain&#8217;s personnel =
records to do=20
  so. In a memo written the same day McClain was picked up, the =
psychiatrist=20
  says Tenneco&#8217;s director of occupational health, a Dr. Burley, =
contacted him=20
  and described McClain as "very much involved in drumming up support =
for the=20
  union" and displaying "paranoid thinking a behaviors."<BR>Had the Dr. =
Burley=20
  ever met Gary McClain? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> I don&#8217;t believe that Dr. Burley ever =
me&#8212;met Mr. McClain.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Did he ever examine him? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>JOE GARRISON</B> If he didn&#8217;t meet him, I don&#8217;t think =
he could have=20
  examined him. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Nevertheless, according to the memo, the =
Tenneco=20
  doctor, Dr. Burley, from his office in New York, said he believed =
&#8216;Mr. McClain=20
  suffered from a mental illness, appeared to be dangerous,&#8217; and, =
Dr. Burley=20
  said, he would be passing on his views to the sheriff to =
&#8216;initiate an=20
  involuntary commitment.&#8217; Tenneco would not permit Dr. Burley to =
talk with=20
  <I>20/20</I>. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>PROFESSOR GREGG BLOCHE</B> It is the sort of thing that went on in =
the=20
  Soviet Union. Except that the Soviets did it with a bit more due =
process.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) Law professor Gregg Bloche, also a =
psychiatrist, says=20
  the memo clearly shows that Tenneco was concerned about the union and =
raises=20
  serious questions about how big companies, like Tenneco, try to pry =
into=20
  employee health records. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial =
Narrow"><FONT=20
  size=3D2>
  <P>GREGG BLOCHE</B> If you see a psychiatrist, if you just have =
something=20
  embarrassing that&#8217;s physically wrong with you that you =
wouldn&#8217;t want your=20
  employer and the world, potentially, to know, you don&#8217;t have =
protection.=20
  That&#8217;s what 160 million Americans who get their health insurance =
through the=20
  workplace need to be worried about. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) At the request of the sheriff, the FBI has now =
been=20
  asked to investigate the case of Gary McClain, who hasn&#8217;t worked =
a day since=20
  he was declared mentally ill. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>GARY MCCLAIN</B> To be done that way and&#8212;and you know =
there&#8217;s not anything=20
  wrong with you and for somebody to treat you like you&#8217;re just =
some sicko, it=20
  hurts. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BARBARA WALTERS</B> Brian, Gary McClain is in his 40s and has years =
ahead=20
  in which to work. Is he employable? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Well, it&#8217;s the kind of accusation that once =
made is&#8212;leaves a=20
  stigma very hard, if not impossible, to remove. And Gary wonders how =
to ever=20
  explain it to a future boss. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BARBARA WALTERS</B> So how do things stand now? =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> Well, Tenneco is paying him, but they won&#8217;t =
let him on the=20
  property. And they won&#8217;t give him his job back unless he sees a =
psychiatrist=20
  they appoint. Meantime, he&#8217;s appealing to the National Labor =
Relations Board=20
  and a ruling could come very shortly. </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BARBARA WALTERS</B> And if the ruling is in his favor, then they =
have to=20
  hire him back? </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> That&#8217;s exactly right. =
</FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BARBARA WALTERS</B> Even though it might not be a very pleasant =
place for=20
  him to... </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT =
size=3D2>
  <P>BRIAN ROSS</B> (VO) That&#8217;s what he fears. Very tough =
situation for Gary.=20
  </FONT></FONT></P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"><FONT size=3D2>
  <P>BARBARA WALTERS</B> Tough situation all around. Thank you, Brian. I =
do want=20
  to tell our viewers that you and Dr. Gregg Bloche, who is one of the =
experts=20
  in Brian&#8217;s report, are going to be available to chat online with =
anyone who=20
  has questions. Right after this=20
program?</FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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