On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:04:10 MST, Dori Zook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Another example; "eating all that fat will make you fat!"  When you eat it
>with carbs, yes, because it ups your insulin and we all know what that
>does.
>  Again, they only see one side of the coin.  It's not the FAT that makes
>you fat, it's the CARBS, dammit!

Right, I think you hit the nail, carbs make fat (dammit or not).
Well, it can't be just *any* carbs which make fat, because there are so
many animals and humans at a carbo-based nutrition which are *not* fat.

But the "industrial" carbs are lacking the necessary breakdown
vitamins (B1, B2,biotin) which come naturally bundeled with them.
Every gram carb without the ability to be metabolized in the Krebs-Cycle
will end as storage fat.
Must end so, and quick, because otherwise blood sugar after a meal
has to go down to normal.

On the other hand *fat* needs less B-Vitamins (B2 and ... ) and b2 is
rich in meats. Good fuel.
If it can be *used*, the natural food regulative mechanism
can signal satiety in time.

(Annother attempt to write down my stone age fuel ideas)

>Does anyone else find this failure to look at the big picture extremely
>annoying?  By the way, I doubt the 50 pounds and four sizes I lost were due
>to losing 'water weight'.  Gimme a break!
I wonder if that would have been possible with natural carbohydrate too.
Sweet potatoe, broccoli, spinach , nuts , not too sweet fruit.

Amadeus
(now at nomail and 3 days to ... vacancy)