in my home town we had a family of black dutch thay were very good friends
to my family. went to my dad's church or i should say the one he pastored.
we really loved that family. i can always reconize a black dutch person. we
have a lady in our chrch here that is black dutch. no she has not told me,
but, i know she is. the cowan family were very musically talented. don't
know if that is a natral black dutch thing or if it was just that family.
From: Bobby G. Greer, Ph. D. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Geneaology and such
Grover Clevand!! I am impressed! Yeah, most Southern folk here in TN,
ARK and TX originally came from Virginia to North Carolina and then west
and/or south. I spoke with my brother recently and he provided me with an
interesting morsel of information. My paternal grandfather always contended
the Greer's of our line were "Black Dutch". Needless to say, you know how
that was interpeted down south! Anyway, my brother met this man from Holland
and laughingly mentioned our Black Dutch heritage. The man said it was no
myth at all. When the Dutch colonized Indonesia, many guys married and
returned with Indonesian brides. The offspring were extremely distinctive
with dark skin and grey eyes. That describes my dad and all my uncles on
side. My Mom's side came from Levi Goodman, and are very light skin and
brown eyes. I have my dad's complexion and my mom's eyes.
Did not mean to talk on like this, but that's me.
BTW, alreadt got a response from Austin and we will meet in Oct. The guy is
scoping out housing for us.
In a message dated 9/7/01 5:23:30 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
<< Well, there's one original Cleveland line in the U.S. from 1687.
from North Yorkshire, they landed in the Tidewater region of Virginia. Half
the line moved north toward New York (Grover Cleveland's line) and half
moved south toward the Carolinas and on into the Hartwell, Georgia area.
That's my line. So, if the guys great-grands are from the south, we're
probably related. My mom and brother have spent big $$$'s and lots of time
researching the genealogy.