True, I may have misunderstood the question, but if Ford is saving $1.2M 
and you add that up over all of the Fortune 100 or fortune 500 companies 
thenthen the computer companies would be crazy not to look for ways to 
save them even more money. Companies with huge IT investments are asking 
for computers that use less power, autonomically throttle themselves 
down and so on. I'd be surprised if this wasn't one of the top 3 
requests from your fortune 500 companies to their computer suppliers, 
and I'd be surprised if all of the computer companies didn't have this 
in their list of top 3 strategies.

You've already seen this trickle down into the PC's. that's why there 
are 5 different levels of power management (including sleep, stand by 
and hibernate) in your PC's. As we start running 64-bit dual and quad 
core systems on our desktops, I think you'll also start seeing this 
autonomic power management finding it's way into your Pc's as well.

--

Christopher
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On 3/26/2010 6:58 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
> They are not exploring, they are implementing.
>
> On Mar 26, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
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> If they are spending so much money exploring the issue, it defeats the whole purpose, way it seems to me.
>
>
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> On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
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>> I guess the debate over whether you should power off your own PC or not is a
>> fun water cooler question with no right answer to it, but if I remember, the
>> original post had to do with how much Ford was saving by turning off
>> computers during evenings and weekends. This is a huge issue in the computer
>> industry right now, and IBM, Intel, HP, Sun, Dell and others are investing a
>> lot of money into having computers consume less power. This isn't just a
>> green environment friendly issue, but it's big dollars for big companies
>> with a big information technology investment. It's more than the cost of the
>> power as well. Companies have to build up their physical infrastructure and
>> power grid to handle the power needed by their computers.
>>
>> Remember too, that Ford and others aren't talking about turning off
>> computers doing valuable work but rather shutting down systems that don't
>> need to be running. Of course, the question becomes how do you determine
>> which systems are needed and which aren't.
>>
>> Also, on the issue of wear and tare, I'm guessing the wear and tare on a
>> system booting up is probably off set by the wear and tare generated by the
>> heat of a running system. Even if it isn't, I think most systems for most
>> people become obsolete before they break down due to wear and tare.
>>
>> For my own part, I turn my system off when I'm not using it, but I also have
>> no qualms leaving it up over night because of scheduled maintenance or a
>> file transfer. Research and development in advanced power management is also
>> helping keep me and some of my employees gainfully employed.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
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>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Turning Off Computers
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>> Without expressing an opinion on this and I don't have a strong one:
>>
>> this question has been debated back and forth by countless pc gurus with
>> absolutely no discernable aggreement.  Probably more energy is spent
>> discussing the question than anything else.
>> And probably more items in the typical office or home drain far greater
>> amounts of electricity than the lowly personal pc.
>> Keep in mind that not only must power issues be considered, but also wear
>> and tear on the components involved, what others items remain powered when a
>> pc runs, what is lost in time value with pcs running or not running, etc.
>> It's a fun question to discuss over the water cooler, but I doubt that there
>> is a real right ansswer to it.
>>
>> As for what we do around our home, we generally leave desktops on during
>> waking hours or when scheduled to do recordings; turn them off at night or
>> during t-storms.
>> Remember, your time is also worth something.
>>
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