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Thanks, Everyone, for the feedback. I have a follow-up question: Do you 
think it is better to go with wired (3.5 MM or USB) or wireless 
(presumably Bluetooth) headsets and microphones?

Thanks,
Duane


On 3/7/2021 7:48 PM, Ana G wrote:
> I've thought about ordering this external sound card to help me with 
> my Zoom issue, but I don't think it would work for what I'm trying to 
> do. As I understand it, I'd have to wear two sets of headphones, one 
> to hear the screen reader coming from the sound card and another to 
> hear and speak into Zoom on the computer.
>
>
> I do think that what the host does affects how my computer behaves. 
> For example, when I Zoom with friends, I can use a microphone without 
> a headset, and things seem to work well. When people try doing that at 
> work, we all hear echos and other feedback.
>
>
> On 3/7/2021 2:35 PM, Steve Hoad wrote:
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>> On 3/6/21, Ana G <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I think the topic of Zoom with screen readers is complicated. I use 
>>> Zoom
>>> at work with a headset and microphone, and other people still hear the
>>> screen reader.
>>>
>>>
>>> The version of Windows 10 I'm running at work is not current, so
>>> Narrator is buggier. On that version of Narrator, I don't have the
>>> option to send the screen reader to a different sound card.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mostly I use NVDA with Zoom at work, and after much searching, I 
>>> finally
>>> found the commands for changing The soundcard for NVDA. The command is
>>> NVDA+ctrl+s, then tab once. I'll have an opportunity to try it next 
>>> week.
>>>
>>>
>>> At home, I've experimented with Jaws and the Soundcard settings, which
>>> are located in the Jaws Utility menu. Sometimes it works, but not 
>>> always.
>>>
>>>
>>> The long and the short of it is that I suspect some behavior is
>>> determined by the host.
>>>
>>>
>>> To make my life easier I do the following:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes, I turn the screen reader off once I'm in the session. This
>>> isn't idea, especially if I have to keep track of things like chats, 
>>> but
>>> sometimes it's more practicable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes I just prepare to tap the ctrl button as needed. I've found
>>> that some screen-reader chatter is not unwelcome. For example, many
>>> people don't mind hearing that someone came or left the meeting. But a
>>> lot of screen reader chatter is disruptive, so I tap the ctrl key
>>> frequently.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the time, I use the headset controls to mute myself. I have a
>>> Logitech; I think it's an H540. I hit the headset mute button as 
>>> soon as
>>> I know I'm in the call. Then I can explore the screen, adjust settings,
>>> and listen to my screen reader all I want. When it's time for me to
>>> speak, I unmute using the headset and immediately tap the ctrl key to
>>> stop people from hearing that I'm unmuted.
>>>
>>>
>>> What I do depends on the specific situation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/5/2021 10:59 PM, Albert Ruel wrote:
>>>> Zoom meetings done with a screen reader should always have a 
>>>> headset and
>>>> microphone, either built-in or separate. It’s the only way to 
>>>> isolate the
>>>> screen reader sound from your voice input.
>>>>
>>>> Thx, Albert
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 5, 2021, at 6:40 AM, Duane Farrar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Windows 10 desktop PC computer running JAWS 2021 as my screen
>>>> reader. I have a USB webcam that also acts as my microphone. It is 
>>>> mounted
>>>> on top of my 23-inch display screen. On either side of the display 
>>>> screen
>>>> are my separate speakers for the computer's audio output. These are
>>>> connected to and powered by a separate sub-woofer box underneath my 
>>>> desk.
>>>> These speakers connect to the computer's sound card in the back of the
>>>> desktop box via a standard 3.5 MM jack. There are also available 
>>>> jacks for
>>>> speakers/headphones and microphones on the front of the desktop unit.
>>>>
>>>> When I am connected to a Zoom session my webcam microphone will 
>>>> pick up
>>>> the computer speaker audio and this is often problematic when I am 
>>>> trying
>>>> to use JAWS to navigate around the screen or JAWS is reporting 
>>>> things that
>>>> are happening on the screen, such as a new user joining the meeting or
>>>> updates in the chat and Q&A areas. Everyone else connected to the 
>>>> meeting
>>>> can also hear this audio output so I usually have to mute my computer
>>>> unless I need to speak, which can be a real annoyance, especially 
>>>> in an
>>>> animated discussion with friends.
>>>>
>>>> How have others solved this problem? Should I acquire a pair of 
>>>> headphones
>>>> with a built-in microphone, or even a separate USB microphone? Can 
>>>> I route
>>>> the JAWS output to the headphones and other computer audio to the 
>>>> external
>>>> speakers? What are your recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Duane
>>>>
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