Hi Christopher,
It's a matter of parity not simple desire. I'll get to the screen reader
issue in a moment, but suffice it to say that cell phones are being given
away and sold at rediculously low prices like 4995 and less to those who can
use them but for us to get access we have to pay almost a thousand dollars
and there are still issues. We need integrated access, it is our right o
have integrated access inthe 21st century and we should work towards it. I
am glad you can afford such a luxury and this is where the screen reader
comes in. Computers should have them built in upon request but that is
another matter but it could sugnificantly lower the cost.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher J chaltain" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Mobile Accessibility 2 - Released - Special Promotion till
31.12.2003
David,
I respect your desire for a simple accessible cell phone. I personally
have a Nokia 9290 Communicator with the Talks software. This is by no
means a simple cell phone, and I do have to pay extra to make it
accessible via the Talks software. I think of it as analogous to
purchasing a PC and buying a screen reader to make it accessible. I
applaud your efforts to get a simple accessible cell phone, and I
definitely think there's a need for such a product. However, I am very
pleased with my PDA/cell phone, and I am glad there are applications like
Talks that give me access to virtually all of the Communicator's features.
Christopher
Christopher J Chaltain
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David Poehlman <[log in to unmask]>
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Please respond to David Poehlman
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I have not seen evidence strong enough that the software is good enough
and
stable enough. all three of the pachages that I know of have issues and
they all seem to run on these high end platforms. When I find software
that
does what I have described for a simple cell phone, I will be happy to
follow up if I am in the market for it.
I am not even counting the combinations of assistive technology or devices
adding assistive technology that can be interfaced with the cellular
network. While I agree that there are wonders being performed, it seems
we
have a higher price to pay for them continually than most do.
The issues will resolve themselves eventually as companies work to achieve
accesibility from within and the first time a company puts out an
accessible
simple cell phone, that will be when it has been proven that it can be
done
and then action can be taken to widen the possibilities. So for now, I
work
with manufacturers to provide from within.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Mobile Accessibility 2 - Released - Special Promotion
till
31.12.2003
Section 255 is not enforced unless people file complaints. Have you
requested from the major cell phone companies this software installed on
a phone that they will provide at no additional charge? If so and they
refused, have you filed complaints against each of the cell phone
companies for its failure to provide access when clearly a solution is
available that they could pay for and deploy that provides access and
complies with the regulation? If not, why not? If you want
accountability with an accessibility regulation, this is the primary
means to accomplish such.
Unfortunately, Section 255 does not allow one to sue so a federal court
can decide if the company is ignoring the regulation and then order
remedies to provide access. One can only complain to the FCC, who may do
what they want with the complaint.
Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Poehlman" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Mobile Accessibility 2 - Released - Special Promotion
till 31.12.2003
> This is all very nice, but all I want is a simple cell phone with
buttons I
> can use that talks important things like signal strength, bat life and
> caller id and log. I don't need all that other stuff, further, I don't
want
> all that other stuff. I've got enough ways to do the other stuff and I
can
> only do one thing at a time with one device so while I'm s m s ing, I
can't
> use the phone to talk on or while I am talking I cannot write etc and
the
> bat life must be horrendous! Also, here in the states, 255 tells us
that we
> should not have to pay extra for accessibility so I still wait for my
phone
> to meet the regs.
>
>
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