I'm just responding to one small piece of your message. When pasting 
content into a MS Word document, you can use the special paste dialog to 
determine if you copy it in as plain text or preserve the formatting 
from the original source. You can also change the default behavior. I 
have it set to copy text without formatting as the default to avoid the 
problems you're talking about below, namely getting mixed formatting in 
a document that is hard to sort out for a blind user.

I did consider TextPad, but I chose to go with NoteTab Pro myself. It 
has some of the same features that you like about TextPad.

BTW, it looks like you meant to send your reply to the list and not just 
to me, so I'm putting this on the list myself.

On 10/02/2015 06:43 AM, Stan Berman wrote:
> Sorry, but I am just reading this posting as the first in the thread.
> However, I just want to point you to a text editor that is quite robust and
> you might try it for free and then if it does what you want, you can
> purchase  it to get the tech support or you can continue to use it for free.
>
> The program is  TextPad which is a text editor that has lots of features.
>
>   You can create documents in a variety of formats from plain text to HTML.
> Although I haven't been using it much for a few years  because of the
> character of my needs and I couldn't get it to install on my Windows 7
> machine but recently solved that problem, and will resume using it more.
>
>
> I haven't tried creating accessible tables in TextPad, but I would guess
> that one could easily do it in HTML, just as one could create lists and
> headings (H1-H6) and bulleted lists.  You can create macros within the
> program and search, find and replace for character strings concurrently in
> multiple files (I have done this in several hundred files at one time and
> it's quick and easy.
>
> TextPad, unlike notepad , provides a list of recently used files making it
> much more usable than Microsoft's NotePad.
>
> TextPad can be found at http://www.textpad.com/ -- it is  a UK company and
> if you don't pay the  approximately $30-35 fee, you will get some periodic
> requests to purchase a license which is worth it.
>
> I like it  a lot as it doesn't have all those MS Word  features that
> automatically  do things that create problems for a blind user, e.g.
> automatically carrying  unidentified formatting code with copied content to
> a new file and then  messing up the  new document's formatting because you
> get both format coding together -- so you get double indents and bullets
> within indents, or mixed fonts in the document, and so on, all difficult to
> discern if you are blind.
>
>
>
> There are a couple MS Office-like products that might be worth a look-see,
> like Open Office and both are supposed to be pretty accessible.
>
> I would also look at WordPerfect -- I had it and preferred it over MS Office
> products but couldn't use it with my computer at one point, but I believe
> that it may be workable  now and the last version I have and used had some
> nice features, like the ability to switch back and forth between MS Word and
> WordPerfect modes.  I haven't gotten around to checking on WordPerfect yet
> but will do so in the next week or so.  The last time I bought it the cost
> was just $100 which could be that low because I already own a license.
>
> I find MS Outlook to be a royal pain in the neck -- it is creating all sorts
> of problems and the ribbon menus are terrible in my opinion.
> Good luck
>
> Stan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
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> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Jarte [was] Finding Docs Created in Word with Jarte
>
> So I don't disagree that Jarte isn't a nice program, but if I can't use it
> with my screen reader to work with lists, tables, headings and the like then
> what's the advantage of using Jarte over something like a text editor?
>
> On 10/01/2015 09:39 PM, Ana G wrote:
>> Jarte is hit and miss with formatting.
>>
>> Both Jaws and NVDA announce bullet and numbers correctly.
>>
>> In both, you can use the screen reader key and the letter F to hear
>> that characters are bolded or italicized.
>>
>> Neither screen reader seems to detect tables or the rows or columns in
>> a table.
>>
>> when I used the paragraph formatting submenu to automatically indent
>> the first line of every paragraph, I couldn't tell the that this was
>> working by using the screen reader.
>>
>> I haven't figured out how to create headings. This may be one of the
>> features that comes with the paid version, or it may be buried somewhere.
>>
>> It's actually a nice little word processor. I hope the accessibility
>> kinks can be worked out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/2015 7:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> How does Jarte and a screen reader do with announcing advanced
>>> formatting attributes like headings, lists and tables?
>>
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