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David Poehlman <[log in to unmask]>
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David Poehlman <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:46:42 -0400
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ITunes 8.0 is totally accessible on the Mac.

Microsoft has been in visible accessibility for the blind far longer than 
apple and none of their apps are accessible yet and they didn't even make 
microsoft office 2008 for osx accessible even though they said they were 
going to in a public announcement.  Oh, I forgot, it's accessible, just not 
for the blind.

Lest hords of people write and say: "I use microsoft ofice on my computer", 
try it without JAWS or window eyes.  Try it with narrator.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Apple Announces I-pod Accessibility


Hey, thanks for the URL! Just to clarify though, the accessibility of
the iPod doesn't have anything to do with Window-Eyes. If you have an
iPod Nano and iTunes version 8 then you can have tiny audio files based
on your system's voice settings sent to the iPod giving you a talking
menus structure. Note that I haven't done this myself; I'm just going on
what I read on this web site you provided. Also, although Apple claims
this is unique, note that Rockbox has been doing this for years on the
MP3 players it supports.

Separately, I did see on the same web site that the latest Window-Eyes
beta does give you access to iTunes 8, so they are somewhat related stories.

As an editorial, I'll just say that although I laud Apple for this work
and other efforts they've made with regards to accessibility, IMHO, they
aren't the altruistic company their PR would lead you to believe. If
they were, it wouldn't have taken this long for iTunes and the iPod Nano
to be accessible. Furthermore, the iPhone would have been accessible
when it was launched. So although I think Apple should be praised for
this work, and this work should be encouraged, I'd caution the blind
community in heaping so much praise on Apple that they don't realize
that there's still more to do.

ted chittenden wrote:
> Hi to all.
>
> The website below came to me from another listserv.  Apparently, Apple's 
> I-pod is now compatible with Window-eyes.
>
> http://www.lioncourt.com/
>
> Ted Chittenden
>
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Christopher

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