Hi Janina,

I send my message once to four listing easi, vicug-l, webwatch-l and
lowvis. I send a copy to [log in to unmask] and to [log in to unmask]
It is possible that members of these listing forward the message to other
listings.
Maybe it was better first contact AFB before posting on these lists. If you
prefer so let me know?
It is not my intention to critisize any organization with my message. I
only want to see that websites need to be accessible if any blind
organization is involved.

On the other hand my message brought up some good idea.
A standard message to inform a webmaster or company about the inaccessible
of their website seems a good idea to me. Maybe the AFB can make a purpose
to several listings for such a message.
You could also read critical statements about the AFB.
I don't know if these statements are true. But there seems a lot of people
having some problems with AFB. I don't know if AFB can do something about
it, but it will be gooed to think about it and evaluate. It is best alwas
listining to the blind themselves, because they know the best what is good
for them.

Regards Peter Verhoeven
Internet : http://www.plex.nl/~pverhoe (The Screen Magnifiers Homepage)


At 09:24 5-10-98 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
>Peter:
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>I notice you've been posting this same message for several days now to
>many lists. I have not, had a message from you, nor has anyone else at
>AFB, as far as I know. I would very much like to know whether you wrote to
>anyone at AFB before posting on the lists. For the record, I will include
>my response sent out last Friday below. I cannot, however, try to
>subscribe to every list you've posted to in order to tell you what I said
>when I first saw your posting. Here's what I did send last week:
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>Begin Quoted Message
>>From [log in to unmask] Mon Oct  5 09:18:37 1998
><Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:38:39 -0400 (EDT)
><From: Janina Sajka <[log in to unmask]>
><To: [log in to unmask]
><Cc: [log in to unmask],
><    [log in to unmask],
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><Subject: Re: webwatch-l Toys for the Blind and visual impaired children
><    inaccessable
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><Dear Peter:
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><I have forwarded your note to the staff members of AFB who have worked
><with the Toy Manufacturers of America. I do not know whether or not they
><are aware that the manufacturers have placed this guide online, and have
><not covered all of the issues that should have been covered. I would
><expect, now that this has been pointed out, we will communicate this
><problem to TMA.
><
><You should know that AFB's role with this guide has been the evaluation
><of
><the toys themselves. I believe this is a relationship of quite a few
><years
><now. While this page is not on AFB's web site, our name is certainly
><there, so I know we'll be concerned that the page meet access
><requirments.
><
><Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
><
>End of Quoted Message
>
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>                               Janina Sajka, Director
>                               Information Systems Department
>                               American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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