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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:42:16 +0000
Thanks for the info. Maybe, I was too hasty.
Max in SC
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> I've been using System Access, and it's companion software SATOGO for about
> six months now. I personally haven't found it clunky though not as fully
> developed as JAWS. I think SATOGO is heads and shoulders above Thunder
> which I tried and discarded very quickly. JAWS is still my primary screen
> reader because of this. However, SATOGO has some distinct advantages. For
> one thing, the learning curve is much less than JAWS, and it's also much
> easier to install and get working properly. It works adequately with all
> the MS Office aps, has a few capabilities that JAWS does not have at all. I
> think for the extra capability you have to buy the paid version, but even at
> that, it's only about a th ird of the price of JAWS. The extras to which I
> refer are these:
>
> * It has the ability to create either a CD/ROM or be installed on a USB3
> Thumb Drive and it will bring up any XP or Vista computer from no speech to
> speech automatically. I've tried it, it is really amazing. You plug it in,
> and in maybe 30 seconds, or a bit more, the computer begins to talk and get
> you set up. JAWS cannot do this without a lot of troublesome prep, and then
> it won't always work. When you unplug the drive, the computer completely
> reverts back to it's normal state. This is great for borrowing a computer
> which isn't yours. The SATOGO version also can do this.
>
> * It enables you to use a feature much like Remote Desktop to control your
> home or work computer remotely. I, for instance, can be working at home,
> and need an application or file on my work computer. With just a couple of
> key strokes, I can log into my work computer, and not just copy files, but
> actually use the applications on my work computer, from home. I find this
> really cool, and sometimes very useful. It can use the screen reader
> resident on the remote computer, or use it's own speech as you choose.
>
> On the minus side:
>
> * The voice is apparently DEC Talk which is a bit less up to date and
> pleasant than Eloquence, but still very usable.
>
> * The means of reviewing the screen is a bit unusual. You must go into a
> mouse mode which isn't as fully functional as the JAWS cursor is.
>
> * It doesn't seem to support legacy DOS applications running under windows
> as JAWS can.
>
> All that said, the price is certainly right. If a person is planning to do
> mostly email, web surfing, and standard office applications, it is not only
> adequate, but easy to us e and inexpensive or free.
>
> Just my two cents.
> Bill
>
>
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> Subject: [VICUG-L] FW: [VICUG-L] FW: Press Release: Nonprofit Launched to
> Bring Free Accessibility Worldwide
>
> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I downloaded this free screenreader software. It works OK. It is a little
> "clunky" (you can translate that word into a more appropriate Techno
> phrase). Reminds me of the "Thunder" Screen reader.
>
>
>
> Anyone out there tried it? What is your impression of it? Are there any
> glitches with other established screen reader software or anything that you
> found which would create problems for th e rest of us?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Max in SC
>
>
> -------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
> From: Sun Sounds of Arizona
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> Subject: [VICUG-L] FW: Press Release: Nonprofit Launched to Bring
> Free Accessibility Worldwide
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:51:34 +0000
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Accessibility Is a Right Foundation
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> Subject: Press Release: Nonprofit Launched to Bring Free
> Accessibility
> Worldwide
>
>
> NEWS RELEASE
>
>
>
>
>
> Media Contact:
>
> Janelle Schulenberg
>
> Tacet Consulting
>
> 612-720-1068
>
> [log in to unmask]
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>
>
>
> Nonprofit Launched to Bring Free Accessibility Worldwide
>
> < BR>
>
>
> The AIR Foundation committed to 'accessibility is a right'
>
>
>
>
> Orlando, Florida - January 31, 2008 - The AIR Foundation, a
> nonprofit
> organization headquartered in Minneapolis, Minn. was announced today
> at a
> press conference held during the Assistive Technology Industry
> Association
> (ATIA) 2008 National Conference at the Caribe Royale Resort in
> Orlando,
> Florida. The mission of the foundation is to promote universal
> accessibility
> so that every blind and low-vision person in the world has access to
> digital
> information over the Internet and Worldwide Web.
>
> The foundation' s executive director, Art Schreiber, also
> announced that the organization's first offering will be free usage
> of a Web
> 2.0 accessible screen reader. The product is provided through an
> exclusive
> license in perpetuity granted to The AIR Foundation from Serotek
> Corporation, the leading provider of Internet and digital
> information
> accessibilit y software and services. The screen reader is called SA
> To Go
> and is powered by Serotek's award-winning System Access software
> which
> provides immediate text to speech, magnified visual, and Braille
> access to
> digital information presented through the Web or other means, while
> the user
> is directly connected to the Internet. The software does not remain
> resident on the user's computer when the connection to the Internet
> is
> interrupted or terminated. Users can obtain access to the f ree
> software by
> calling 877-369-0101 or visiting www.AccessibilityIsaRight.org
> .
>
> "The basic tenet of The AIR Foundation is that accessibility is a
> fundamental human right, regardless of financial or geographic
> constraints"
> said Art Schreiber, executive director of The AIR Foundation, "by
> allowing
> the blind and visually impaired to have equal access to computer and
>
> Internet information through the free use of an adv anced screen
> reader like
> SA To Go, we have already taken great strides toward our mission."
>
> The AIR Foundation will solicit funds and contract development of
> product
> enhancements including availability in other languages. The
> organization's
> first priority is to make SA To Go available in Mandarin Chinese.
>
> "SA To Go is highly intuitive and requires minimal training to use,"
> said
> Serotek CEO, Mike Calvo, "the user not only has access to
> information
> displayed on Web pages, but to Web-based applications such as
> Internet
> telephone service, and to applications resident on the host
> computer. The
> user can also access PDF files, fill out forms, and otherwise
> interact with
> information with the same facility as a sighted person."
>
> The AIR Foundation will operate through the generosity of
> organizations
> donating their time, expertise, and funds. It invites other
> nonprofits,
> assistive techno logy vendors, mainstream hardware and softw are
> companies and
> anyone interested in promoting accessibility as every person's
> right, to
> align with the AIR team.
>
>
>
> The AIR Foundation
>
> The AIR Foundation is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to
& gt; advocate,
> teach, and deliver information accessibility tools. We focus on the
> accessibility needs of blind and low-vision people. Our mantra is
> "accessibility is a right" and we work with corporations and
> agencies
> worldwide to deliver free accessibility to all. For more
> information, call
> 877-369-0101 or visit www.AccessibilityIsaRight.org
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> Serotek Corporation
>
> Serotek Corporation is a leading technology company that develops
> software
> and manufactures accessibility solutions. Committed to the mission
> of
> providing accessibility anywhere, Serotek launched the first online
> community specifically designed to meet the needs of people with
> disabiliti es. Since then, Serotek has introduced several powerful,
> affordable solutions that require minimal training and investment.
> For more
> information, visit www.serotek.com .
>
>
>
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Satogo is wasting their time.
I'll take jfw over it, any day. For one thing, SAtogo loses focus on a weg page, and in other windows, I know that, because it did 6 months ago, so I said, forget it.
It is not nearly as fully functional and developed as jfw.
As far as instalation, jfw 9 is easier than any other version before it, with the startup wizzard.
Jaws can be installed on a USB drive, or, using a dongle.
Jfw will bring up speech on a computer as satogo as well.
Jaws lets you have remote access as well.
The mouse mode is not as functional as jfw as well.
On web pages, satogo loses focus as well, it did for me when I tryed it 6 months ago.
Harry
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