Hi Jim,
To answer the question you asked, no, Windows 10 does not force you to 
use the cloud to store things.
I'm using windows 10, and I don't have anything in the cloud.
Harry

On 9/23/2016 10:55 AM, ted chittenden wrote:
> Hi to all.
>
> Jim:
> I don't know the answers to all (or probably even most) of the questions you have raised, but I think you need to take some serious concerns into consideration.
>
> First and foremost among these is the fact that blind people represent about .6% of the world's population, if you use the legal definition of blindness under U.S. law, and most of these people are visually impaired, meaning that they have some sight. In terms of technology (and other issues), what this statistic means is that technology (and other updates) for the blind and visually impaired (especially the former) are going to be 1) done after the fact; and 2) set to follow trends within the sighted community.
>
> The Cloud (along with Facebook and other social media groups) is being heavily used by the sighted community so a lot of efforts are underway now to make these things accessible to the blind, even at the cost of the blind and visually impaired losing access to technology that they are used to and that presently works for them very well.
>
> The whole truth is that none of us likes change, yet change, for better or worse, is being forced upon us. I don't really want to move from my Windows 10 desktop computer to an iPhone--for me, the learning curve looks pretty steep, especially the gestures required for use of Apple. However, I may be forced into making this change as newer editions of Windows, although they make some things easier, also make some things (including playing audio and visual files outside of Windows Media Player) more difficult.
>
> In sum, I think all of us need to learn that change is the only constant and that, if we don't have control over the coming changes, we must learn to accommodate and ultimately accept them.
> --
> Ted Chittenden
>
> Every story has at least two sides if not more.
> ---- Jim Hamilton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Bill:
>
> It looks like you forgot something from your forward of my message.  Here it
> is again - going out to the whole list, I assume.
>
> "
> On the other hand, my "alternative perspective" is to avoid the "cloud" as
> much as possible.  I do understand that I do have, and will have no power to
> stop some things from having to be stored in that way.  Technology is too
> far along now to prevent that.  It's bad enough that my iPhone wants to
> "enable" the iCloud, and make other changes to my settings, whenever the IOS
> is updated, and that Apple keeps reminding me to install iCloud on my PC.
> So, knowing that I can disable One Drive is something that I can do that
> could save me a lot of grief!  It may not stop the other things from
> happening; but, I like to have control over that which it is possible for me
> to control.
>
> When you get right down to it, I guess that I have extremely little faith
> that there are any "privacy guarantees", especially once information gets
> placed on the internet!  I come from the days when there was no internet,
> CPM was the dominant OS, through the DOS days, and kicking and screaming all
> the way through various iterations of various screen readers to JAWS 17 and
> Windows 8.1.  As this journey progressed, I felt my ability to control
> technology slip gradually away.  So, I am reluctant to relinquish what
> control I have.
>
> Just venting...  I have absolutely no problem with other people using the
> cloud.  It's just a different generation/way of looking at the world these
> days.  I have no problem with progress in general; but, I do object to me
> being forceably "progressed"!  I like to know that what "has" worked for me
> up until now, will "continue" to work for me in the future.
>
> Nonetheless, I am left with a "quick" question.  When people upgrade to
> Windows 10, are they forced to use the cloud?  Would there be anything -
> e.g. settings, contacts, anything -  that "automatically" would be sent to
> the cloud?  If so, and if possible, what steps could be taken to
> prevent/minimize the use of the cloud in Windows 10?  And, would it still be
> possible to "disable" One Drive - I'm assuming "yes"?
>
> Secondarily, is there anything in upcoming versions of JAWS, e.g. V: 18,
> where one should be cautious about potential use of the cloud?
>
> Thanks for listening to my short rant.
>
> Jim H
> "
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> I think the message below was intended for the entire list.
> b
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