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Osmar Ferreira de Oliveira <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:01:31 -0300
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>> Re Don's,
   apologizing, due to word number restrictions on the List.

>>... detailed discussion and accurate information;
>>... confidentiality and frank interchange;
>>... to obscure.. including fictional details;
>>... Freud's cases..Berta Pappenheim, about whom many details are now
>>available

   trying to add some reflections..

   Even in Freud's works and those of all after him, a lot of information
come    and came barely  to what we should call now accurate.

   Detailed discussion means to share doubts and have a global and general
listening ( a diffuse reading attention ) if we do not want to loose one of
the main principles of psychoanalytic procedures.

   Confidentiality in Psychoanalysis since the very beggining of it,
   just like frank interchange, are things we should discuss if we regard
   what has been called nowadays by " Burying Freud ".
   What I do not agree with, just like I told before.

   Of course there are values and values, but I think we must be oppened
   to a free and sincere discussion in the List nowadays, in time of
   " clonages ".

   I would never suggest " fictional details" that could "obscure" such
readings, although no one can establish that the details you mention on
   historic cases of Freud and others were not at some time fictional and
   even obscure ( one of the main critics that are made against Freud, to
   ajust his cases ).

   I would like to remember the List, that one of us asked to get off of
   It, because she wanted to read about doubts she had in her clinic,
   and not did not want only discussing historyography.

   Of course I agree with all the restrictions made by both, but I think
   that this matter's discussion  should be a goal, otherwise the List had not
   been silenced from then on.

   Cheers,
   Osmar.

   " Every human word is fiction, because even reality may become fiction,
     and fiction reality.
     Should we call virtual reality virtual, and real reality real ? "

     What about O.J.Simpson, and clones and....what else, conscience ??

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