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Greetings Don & List--
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Penlington" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:35 AM
Subject: [PCSOFT] Trojans


> Alan wrote:
>><<I need some program (free or pay) to get rid of trojans.>>
>
>
> The Microsoft Antispyware is excellent. Using this, you can practically
> eliminate all your other spyware software.
>
> Although it's still in Beta form, it's now been out long enough to iron
> out
> all likely bugs. I haven't heard of any problems with it, and it is
> receiving many excellent reviews.
>
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While I, too, am generally pleased with the Microsoft Product, I think it
may
be in the best interest of a number of us to consider the purchase of
Sunbelt's
CounterSpy software. This was developed from the same product MS acquired
from Giant, but Sunbelt has not DOWNGRADED several Spyware vendors
as MS has. I've included a quote from the July 15 issue of W2KNews. This
does, of course have a certain advertising component due to its association
with Sunbelt Software, however; CounterSpy has scored very well in tests
conducted by other independent sources like InformationWeek and PCWorld.
Quote follows:

"     * Microsoft: We're Not Soft On Spyware

Well, there goes Microsoft; off the shortlist for antispyware
solutions just six months after they announced their new AS
tool with a lot of fanfare. They have downgraded a bunch of
adware products that now sit in their database with an "ignore"
and "low risk". But they claim they are not soft on spyware.
Yeah Sure. Here is the link to their pretty lame defense:
http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050718ED-Claria_Letter

Larry Seltzer wrote in eWEEK: "Just when you think Microsoft
did something important the right way, it does the worst
possible thing. What is going through the company's head?"
And then read Brian Livingston's rant on his WindowsSecrets
site. Brian is one of the most respected computer journalists
in the business. For years, he wrote for InfoWorld, and now
runs his own site. Excellent analysis of the situation:
http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050718ED-Seltzer

Oh, and did you know that well over 3,000 sites have rolled
out installations of CounterSpy Enterprise? You might ask
yourself: "Is Sunbelt also downgrading their threat defini-
tions to "ignore" for Claria and other adware like Microsoft
is doing in their Windows Antispyware?". The answer is NO,
we ignore Microsoft's threat scoring values. We only use
their threat data (the file names, and locations where malware
is found, etc.). We have not downgraded our Claria or other
adware recommendations and do not plan to, unless they shape
up, get straight and behave like decent Internet citizens.

PS, the MS/Claria deal is dead, MS was concerned about the
PR fallout that could follow a Claria purchase. Darn right."

FWIW.

Paul A. Shippert
Library Media Specialist
Margaret Brent Middle School

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