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From:
Mike Buraczewski <[log in to unmask]>
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PCSOFT - PC software discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:38:09 -0600
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Jim

I have to agree with you that the that all those codes are still embedded as
*historical* information related to the document.  But that is very
different that the codes that you are looking at in Reveal Codes.  Use your
own example and have someone create and modify the file as you have
suggested on a computer other than your own.  Have them turn on reveal codes
and remove all the codes that they can find.  Have them give you the file.
Open the document in WordPerfect on your computer, and you can go back
through the history of that document and restore those removed codes even
though they do not appear in the document when you opened it.  (This is a
excellent reason to be very careful of any confidential or security
information that you think you may have deleted from a document and
subsequently send to a someone you wish to hide that information from).  A
macro does exist to remove them from WordPerfect, and I assume a similar
macro could be created for the MS product, however in both cases, the
programmers are trying to make our lives easier by not removing the
historical changes to our documents.

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if they do still exist from either
software package.  It does not affect your printed page which is ultimately
what you are shooting for.  Obviously Reveal Codes makes life a bit easier
to remove those codes when things get tricky and finding a code that is
improperly indenting a paragraph or putting a margin release in the wrong
place.  However:

I repeat that (in my opinion) reveal codes is a crutch that we all (myself
included) have come to depend on.  If we simply learned the correct methods
to use the miriad of features then the reveal codes become unnecessary.

'nough said, I hope my opinion has not caused any hard feelings. :-)

Mike Buraczewski
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From: Jim Meagher <[log in to unmask]>


|Unnecessary?  I don't think so....
|
|To illustrate:
|Go in to the middle of a paragraph in a Word document and select
|2,3, or a dozen words.  Now turn on bold, then turn on underlining,
|now turn off bold, now turn on italics and turn off underlining, and
|finally turn off the italics.
|
|Even though they are now inactive, ALL those codes are -=STILL=-
|embedded in the document (you can prove this by using the undo button
|to backup through all those changes.)  But there is  NO way to see
|or - more importantly - *remove* all the crud that is hidden in there.
|
|Granted, that's a pretty extreme example-- but the point is, that quite
|often people will add some type of emphasis to a doc and then change
|their mind.  All those codes REMAIN part of the document.  They add
|to the size of the file and -worse - they are still hiding in
|there and can cause unexpected and confusing changes to a document
|when you attempt to edit in the vicinity of those hidden codes.
|

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