On 30 Sep 98 at 15:23, Patrick Black wrote:

> Um, I have a question for the List Members, What is the main
> difference Between the Celeron and the PII? Plus is it the cheaper
> alternative to the PII?

  The current crop of PIIs are composed of three separate chips
inside the plastic package:  1 CPU and 2 L2 cache.  This makes them
relatively expensive to assemble.
  The Celeron uses a single chip, and dispenses with the plastic.
This left the Celeron 266 and 300 without any L2 cache, hurting their
performance.  The 300A and the 333 are using a new chip die which
includes 128K of L2 cache on the single chip; this integration allows
the cache to run at full CPU speed (PII L2 is half-speed), and yields
performance comparable to PII at same clock rate for less money.
  Note, though, that Intel sells a PII-450, but their fastest Celeron
is rated for 333 MHz.


> Here are the following Intel motherboard types that support PII and Celeron
> Processor:
>
>     Intel AL440LX
>       "    MU440EX
>        "   SE440BX
>
> This info is easily found in the MicroWarehouse Catalog.

  The Intel motherboards I've evaluated have often included features
of limited use to the average buyer (and/or excluded desirable
features...), and have always been priced well above competing
boards.

  The original question wasn't really about boards -- he's already
looking at the Abit BX6 or BH6, or the Asus P2B -- but about where to
find the mounting hardware.  Since Celeron doesn't have the plastic
shroud of a PII, the brackets shipped with some/older Slot 1 boards
don't connect to the Celeron.  Bob Thrasher's response is pointing
out that the BH6, at least, comes with both sets of brackets.

David G


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Thrasher <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Celeron in a Pentium-II motherboard
>
>
> >At 09:46 AM 9/28/98 , you wrote:
> >>
> >>I want to buy an inexpensive Celeron CPU (probably a 266MHz for $80)
> >>and a high quality BX motherboard such as an Asus or Abit model.
> >>
> >>Question: How do I install the Celeron CPU into the Slot One so that
> >>it is securely fastened and not just hanging out of the slot?
> >
> >Just now installed a Celeron 300A on a Abit BH6 board. No problem,
> >the board is shipped with mounts for the PII and Celeron processors.

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