Hi All:
I don't know a lot about processors, heat build up, Pentium D or dual
processors etc. but I was discussing this with my son, (instrumentation
tech. at Suncor) and he says the only reason for using the new dual core
technology is the manufacturers inability to design something to disperse
the heat build up in Pentium D and / or faster processors. So, whatever
works, go for it.
Joe at [log in to unmask]
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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. Intel Pentium D & Intel Core 2 Duo Performance (2)
> 2. question?
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:15:42 -0400
> From: J Ottie <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Intel Pentium D & Intel Core 2 Duo Performance
>
> Good Afternoon All,
>
> Does anyone have any hands-on experience with or expert knowledge about
> the
> performance of Intel's Pentium D 945 (or Pentium D 935) processor compared
> to Intel's recently introduced E4400 Core 2 Duo processor?
>
> In the Dell machine I wish to order, both CPUs run with a 800 MHz FSB and
> use 667 MHz DDR2 memory. Also both processors are within a few dollars of
> each other in Dell's pricing structure, but curiously the older technology
> Pentium D 945 which has 2x2MB L2 cache and supports VT (Intel's
> Virtualization Technology) is priced slightly higer than the just
> introduced
> Core 2 Duo E4400 which has1x2MB shared L2 cache and lacks VT support.
>
> Does this mean that the Pentium D 945 is the better performing processor,
> or
> does it simply mean that D 945 is more expensive to manufacture than the
> newer Core 2 Duo E4400? Unfortunately Dell doesn't include either
> processor
> in their current CPU performance chart, so one is left guessing which CPU
> offers the better overall performance.
>
> See:
> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/dimen/topics/en/dhs_cpu_landing?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs.
>
> While reseaching this topic I learned that testing results posted at
> various
> online hardware forums seem to indicate the E4400 has the edge over the
> Pentium D 945 in most benchmark categories, sometimes significantly so.
>
> Surprisingly though, I've also read in a couple highly technical,
> genuinely
> geekish forums that all Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs have many serious design
> and/or coding flaws that Intel has yet to address and fix. These reports
> advised against buying any machine using a Core 2 Duo processor until
> Intel's fixes the problems in revised and updated versions of these CPUs
> which are likely, so concluded the authors of the reports I read, to be
> released in about a year's time.
>
> Bottom line is: which processor should I select?
>
> Thanks in advance to one and all for lending me a hand in making the
> proper
> choice. I remain,
>
> Yours with Kind Regards,
> Jeffrey Ottie
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:28:53 -0500
> From: Mark Tretter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Intel Pentium D & Intel Core 2 Duo Performance
>
> Here is the link to Tom's Hardware CPU Performance Charts to give you an
> idea how they stack up running different apps. HTH
> Mark
> http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J Ottie" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:10 PM
> Subject: [PCBUILD] Intel Pentium D & Intel Core 2 Duo Performance
>
>
>> Good Afternoon All,
>>
>> Does anyone have any hands-on experience with or expert knowledge about
>> the
>> performance of Intel's Pentium D 945 (or Pentium D 935) processor
>> compared
>> to Intel's recently introduced E4400 Core 2 Duo processor?
>>
>> In the Dell machine I wish to order, both CPUs run with a 800 MHz FSB and
>> use 667 MHz DDR2 memory. Also both processors are within a few dollars of
>> each other in Dell's pricing structure, but curiously the older
>> technology
>> Pentium D 945 which has 2x2MB L2 cache and supports VT (Intel's
>> Virtualization Technology) is priced slightly higer than the just
>> introduced
>> Core 2 Duo E4400 which has1x2MB shared L2 cache and lacks VT support.
>>
>> Does this mean that the Pentium D 945 is the better performing processor,
>> or
>> does it simply mean that D 945 is more expensive to manufacture than the
>> newer Core 2 Duo E4400? Unfortunately Dell doesn't include either
>> processor
>> in their current CPU performance chart, so one is left guessing which CPU
>> offers the better overall performance.
>>
>> See:
>> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/dimen/topics/en/dhs_cpu_landing?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs.
>>
>> While reseaching this topic I learned that testing results posted at
>> various
>> online hardware forums seem to indicate the E4400 has the edge over the D
>> 945 in most benchmark categories, sometimes significantly so.
>>
>> Surprisingly, I've also read in a couple highly technical, genuinely
>> geekish
>> forums that all Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs have many and serious design and/or
>> coding flaws that Intel has yet to address and fix. These reports advised
>> against buying any machine using a Core 2 Duo processor until Intel's
>> fixes
>> the problems in revised and updated versions of these CPUs which are
>> likely,
>> or so concluded the authors of teh reports I read, to be released in
>> about
>> a
>> year's time.
>>
>> Bottom line is: which processor should I select?
>>
>> Thanks in advance to one and all for landing me a hand in making the
>> proper
>> choice. I remain,
>>
>> Yours with Kind Regards,
>> Jeffrey Ottie
>>
>>
>> eom
>>
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> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 00:38:44 +0200
> From: Anne Meinema <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: question?
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you also see anything on your display ?
>
> There are a few possibility's...
>
> 1. The memory is not good anymore
> 2. The Graphics card is gone.
>
> Greetings, Anne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mr Ryan Booher <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:32:42 -0700
> Subject: [PCBUILD] question?
>
>> i have an HP pavilion n5340 - battery / power button
>> indicators active (when powering up)...but after
>> trying to start all you can hear is the fan
>> begin...then nothing...and after a few seconds - a
>> series of beeps like >---> beep...beep-beep
>> (repeating)
>> - motherboard?
>> - any comments?
>>
>> thanks for your time
>>
>>
>>
>
>> >
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