Well Andy I could name a few people that gave up the Cancer
fight;   I would have had them start with Carrot Juice and
fight it but no;  they went with the regime that
conventional medicine provides.    Jim T. died yesterday:
His doctor and his friend (me) tried to get him to add a few
fruits and vegetables to his diet ant to quit  his heavy
alcohol consumption.  However  I  increasingly feel that
most people look at food as just like religion --I was born
with it so it is the only way.

My Mother and one sister won the cancer fight ;  But my
mother taught all her children tot easy salad and
vegetables.    She fed us overcooked meat but I think now
all have started eating  rare meat.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [P-F] New member, needs some tips.


> On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Richard Archer wrote:
>
> >
> > [...CJD conspiracy theory snipped...]
> >
>
> Most people have no difficulty differentiating a
conspiracy from a
> neurological disease.
>
> >
> > 80 people in what... 10 years?
> >
>
> This is known as the incubation period. A worrying feature
of new variant CJD
> is the greatly reduced incubation period, resulting in
many children dying.
>
> >
> > How many people have died in the last 10 years from
eating foods
> > recommended by doctors, dietitians and cereal lobbies?
> >
>
> A great many, I suspect, but this has nothing to do with
CJD.
>
> >
> > I could probably name 10 people I knew personally who
would probably
> > still be alive if they followed a Paleo diet.
> >
>
> And I could name 80 people who would still be alive if
they hadn't eaten
> infected beef.
>
> >
> > "could be". The expected number of deaths from the
disease in the UK
> > is less than 6000 [figure from that web site you
referred to].
> >
>
> The latest study is based on an analysis of 2000 tissue
samples taken from
> hospitals across the UK. So the website figure is out of
date. So what ?
>
> >
> > You have more chance of getting run down crossing the
street than
> > dying from CJD.
> >
>
> The fact that a totally unrelated event has a lower
probability of occurring
> tells us nothing about the disease, and is once again
irrelevant.
>
> >
> > Personally, I will take my chances with beef products
along with a
> > wide variety of other meat, fish, fruit, vegetables,
nuts and seeds.
> >
>
> Have you made an honest appraisal of the data and come to
an informed
> decision, or are the implications for your particular diet
too unthinkable and
> so you have chosen to ignore the problem ?
>
> >
> > If you believe all the stuff on the web site you
referred to (which
> > appears to be run by a single individual), what on earth
do you eat?
> > The site says wild animals are going mad at a shocking
rate, it says
> > there is no barrier to cross-species contagion, says
sheep and pigs
> > already have some form of CJD. You cannot eat any meat
from land
> > animals and cannot eat farmed fish (because they are
often fed
> > bonemeal). What about plants grown on land fertilised
with
> > blood-and-bone?
> >
>
> The link was offered as a reference only.
>
> >
> > Most everyone on this list has come to realise that what
you read in
> > the popular press and even in medical journals often
bears little
> > resemblance to truth. So called "scientific studies" can
be produced
> > to prove any point you care to name.
> >
>
> Most everyone on this list has come to realise that the
interests of big
> agro-business rarely coincides with the well being of the
individual. There are
> many bad scientific studies about, and there are many good
ones also.
>
> >
> > If we all believed "the latest study" regarding diet we
would all be
> > happily chowing down on bread, margarine and potato deep
fried in
> > trans-fatty acids. We would all fall over dead from a
heart attack or
> >
>
> Fortunately, most people on this list are more discerning.
>
> > If there is any lesson to be learned from the CJD scare
it is that
> > all animals should be fed biologically appropriate
foods. And humans
> > are just another animal -- bring on a paleo diet!
> >
>
> If there is any lesson to be learned from the CJD scare it
is that people
> shouldn't eat prion infected meat.
>
> Andy.