This is personal experience. Have heard from another person, similar experience.

William



15/02/01 4:37:52 AM, Wally Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> That is all my point ,i suggest that inside and
>> outside are the same . they
>> are 2 sides of the same coin , a reflection of each
>> other .
>
>I would prefer to think of them as different coins
>with different denominations. They are still both
>coins - they can be used together in some transactions
>(synergistic thinking), but not in other transactions
>(critical thinking).
>
>>  viruses are the product of the cell they don't have
>> a life of their own.
>
>Hmmm? Certain viruses can survive indefinitely without
>a "host".
>
>> i don't see that much serenity in the (who cares
>> ...) mor an arrogance , but
>
>Perhaps that was an incorrect term to use. Let's try
>"indifference" instead. The point is that one reacts
>to the outside influence and the other does not.
>
>> If the information brought by the virus have been
>> integrated by one individual
>> it is normal that this information want to spread,
>> being shared by others <snip>.
>
>You're proposing that the virus is merely a messenger
>between cells? That it "carries" genetic information
>(DNA) from one cell to another - a microscopic FedEx
>system? Do you think the new cell receives and then
>incorporates the DNA into itself? (I'm not familiar
>with this theory).
>
>> there is genetic diversity  and unity brought by
>> sexual reproduction and i
>> foresee viruses as "uniformity force" to maintain
>> some unity inside a
>> species <snip>
>
>I think you're saying that the virus is a "tool" used
>by (nature? evolution? god?) to enforce natural
>selection within a species? An evolutionary referee?
>
>> what i want to say is that there is no such thing as
>> "disease " organisms ,
>> the disease is  in the RELATIONSHIP  between the 2
>> entities,  the <snip>
>
>So, one week the ebola virus may be my friend, and the
>next week it is my enemy? I'm sorry, to me that is a
>far too chaotic view of the universe. Taken to an
>extreme it would mean that the "friendly" bacteria
>inside me could "turn against me" at any time?
>
>> that is exactelly this kind of perception that
>> create the problem in the
>> first place , by choosing a relationship of rivalry
>> it becomes a reality.
>
>Sometimes one does not "choose" a relationship of
>rivalry - it is thrust upon one. If a wild animal
>attacks me because I have wandered into its territory
>I am forced to react to it. I do not have to consider
>it a "rival" - I may simply choose to avoid it in the
>future.
>
>> and in that kind of relatonship i guarantee you that
>> the virus the bacterias
>> will have the last word in front of more elaborate
>> forms of life
>
>If that were truly the case, then I don't think the
>more elaborate forms of life would ever develop.
>
><snip>
>> inapropriate to transmit what i have to say may be i
>> should send a virus
>
>My anti-virus software won't allow that :)
>
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