> Please give Loren a go!  The Weston-Price people have gone overboard in
> intemperate criticism.
  Pity, as they are actually so close (why is it
> that internicine wars are often the bitterest and most vindictive!).

it remind me of the separation in the gypsy world .
i met 24 years ago a group of gypsy in the cher valley in france travelling
still with wagons and horses and making wilow basckets. the most important
thing for them to told me was how angry they were at the gypsies who have
stopped travelling under the pressure of the sedendary peoples of france
.Way more angry than  they were at the dominant culture .

weston price foundation have a wider purpose than to promote a specific diet
. they understand that some essential reform need to be done in the way
foods  are raised .
Cordain with his" people pleasing " position is supporting a way of farming
that is by essence contrary to a paleo diet .
peoples in that foundation felt probably as the traditional gypsy toward the
trahison of their pairs .

because they are not  very clear themselves with the importance of that
movment of reforming our approach to foods they have not been able to
confront cordain about the  issue with calm, they got emotional about it .

paleo diets could bring a revolution in the way we see food production ,
there is more to it than nutrients content . Eating is a mean in nature to
circulate energy , and doesnt reduce itself to proportions of nutrients
absorbed .
   RELATIONSHIP  with their  source of foods is what made the
preagricultural peoples healthier than their disturbed successors .the
industrialisation of food production is one step farther in the  centrifuge
spiraling away from nature.
One central thing is the absurdity of private ownership of lands , animals
doesnt know boundaries and raising animals in a enclosed lands is sure way
of overgrazing and depletion of soils . in a natural system animals of
differents species share the same aera . their diverses eating habits
intercrossed( you might find a better word for that ) with each other to
maintain an healthy plant ecosystem.
by intercrossed i mean the web of interactions between plants and animals .
any move of one species affect all the other species ressources affecting by
consequence their diet .
all the calculations about surface aeras needed to support a certain kind of
diet ( like vegetariens versus omnivorous ) have no ground in reality or
they have it only in the human made context of monoculture.
when we will have understood this interdependance of all species we will
realise that the most productive way of raising foods is a natural ecosytem
. transitional position from mono culture toward wild diversity will
require to create human made edible  ecosystems who ressemble closelly the
wild ecosystems .
Natural way of farming of Masanobu Fukuoka shows us the way - not
surprisingly it is a spiritual one and the anthetesis of the scientific mind
.

jean-claude