Well, one can study the writings on philosophy over the centuries on how 
one can determine what is really "real", how one only has their sensory 
input to analyze which doesn't prove what is "out there" beyond the 
mind.  One however still has their perception of existence to deal with.

I find the evidence compelling that evolution is the best explanation. 
Hence, evolution isn't a matter of "belief" and is not on the same level 
as believing myths.  Myths are not subject to evidence since the 
believers in myths tend to ignore evidence against them.  However, 
evidence can change over time and theories have to be adjusted or 
changed.  Science doesn't "prove" anything but is flexible and pragmatic.

"Faith" requires no evidence so one can "make-up" whatever religion and 
myths one wants and as you say, claim "faith" is reason enough to 
believe their creations.  I recommend "The Church of the SubGenius" as 
as fully valid as any "faith" belief system one wishes to fantasize.

<http://www.subgenius.com/>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius>

Those claiming "faith" as enough to gamble their lives on generally tend 
to be, on these groups, some sort of biblical based mythology and these 
people generally dismiss any other multitudes of "faiths" in all their 
mutually exclusive varieties, all of which are good enough to believe 
both individually and collectively as equally valid based on their 
"faith" sufficiency argument.  One could believe in creations myths and 
dogma from Egyptian sources, Pagan, Sumerian, Indian, Chinese, Russian, 
  Nordic, Jewish, any all others sources at the same time since "faith" 
is apparently "enough" and believing them all at the same time doesn't 
cause them cognitive dissonance.

Perhaps, we should just stick with all the versions of "paleo" myths. 
Watch out for your dead ancestors who spirits are reincarnated in the 
trees and play tricks on you!  "Faith" is after all all one needs to 
believe in this irrationality.

Steve

zack passman wrote:
> I don't understand when a person tells me that there is no proof of
> evolution and so they'll stick to faith.
> **
> *Wouldn't belief in evolution then be faith and equally reasonable?*
> 
> Or maybe that doesn't hold water because it isn't *their* faith and any
> differing faith would be laughable and wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, steve <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>>  william wrote:
>>
>>> steve wrote:
>>>  The evidence for
>>>
>>>> some version of evolution is compelling while there is a dearth of
>>>> evidence for a plethora of deities.
>>>>
>>> Please quote the evidence for some version of evolution, so that I too can
>>> join the happy crowd of believers.
>>> Without evidence, it remains a hypothesis, fairy tale, whatever.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_prayer_death
>>
>> There is an abundance of evidence in many scientific fields that add weight
>> to the theory of evolution.  I find that evidence for evolution abundance,
>> wide ranging from geology, anthropology, genetics, species differentiation,
>> etc., while the evidence for a plethora of deities is completely
>> non-existence so definitely not repeatable.  No evidence for fairy tales,
>> the same category as mythology.  One cannot even use the religious mythology
>> to decide in any rational way which set of gods one must offer libations too
>> or practice self mutilations for.
>>
>> “That's the problem with religion: you beat your way past the [greedy]
>> clerics, fight your way through the demons, stand before the holy of holies,
>> and when you rip away the veil, there's nothing there but a mirror.” --Owen
>> Rowley quote
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Steve - [log in to unmask]
>>
>> "The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you
>> run out of Other People's Money." --Margaret Thatcher
>>
>> "Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism"
>>
>> Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at
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>>
> 


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