On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 00:50 Ashley Moran wrote:

>But until the RSI sets in from sending so many replies,
>it's entertaining watching people dodge and weave everything that
>contradicts what they believe.  Just imagine what it'd be like if
>people spent half as much time trying to find the truth as they do
>trying to avoid things that contradict what they already believe!
>
>Ashley

Ashley, perhaps the problem arises in part because you have taken 
yourself through a massive program of open-minded self-education, 
driven by a genuine quest for knowledge. You can hand them on a platter 
the results of your quest, but without having been through the process 
as you have, they are mentally unprepared to accept your conclusions.

As you may know from my posts, I believe - as does Art De Vany - palaeo 
food is part of the picture. Physical activity (and the intensity, frequency 
and duration of that activity), sleep, social relationships, mental health, 
environmental pollution and other things are all very important contributors 
to wellness and what is more important is the synergistic interaction between 
them. If this seems all too complicated - hey, who said life was meant to be 
simple enough to be understood in a couple of sound bites.

For those who really want to understand, I'd suggest they step back a way 
and try to understand life on Earth and the human place in nature. For people 
who establish that foundation of knowledge and understanding, the rest just 
falls into place. The book is "People and Nature: The Big Picture"

It's not on Amazon, but is available here;

www.natsoc.org.au

Go to <Publications>

Click on the book's title in the list.

I should declare an interest here: I know the author, Professor Stephen 
Boyden (who jogs up mountains most days before breakfast - at the age 
of 82), and have admired his work for years.

A taste of his writing can be found in this 1973 article I have on my site:

http://www.evfit.com/boyden_1973.htm

I was a vegetarian for 30 years and for 4 of those a thoroughgoing vegan.
Five years ago I switched straight to Palaeo. Since then I have not knowingly
had any grains, sugar, milk (had a litre of goat's milk once, just to see what 
it was like), soy products. I do allow myself some cheese and half a glass of 
red wine a few days a week. Gym three days a week (still lifting over Art De 
Vany's benchmark of double your bodyweight in a deadlift) and commute 
200km a week to and from work by bike. It's not a research paper - but I
much prefer living it than I would reading about it. 

If you would like something on the health hazards of veganism, try this:
"Overpopulation, vegans eating plastic, and the housing bubble" it
can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/da295

That'll put the wind up 'em and put you on the front foot, even 
though it won't prove what they are asking you to prove.

Best of luck, Ashley

Keith
www.evfit.com