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"Wurtenberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]>
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Eat Sashimi (fresh raw tuna) and compare how you feel after eating canned
tuna. I think that your demand for someone to give you a scientific answer
will fade.

-Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Walsh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Cordain/Sardines


"M.E. C [log in to unmask] " wrote:
>
> page 122/123...Paleo Diet by Loren Cordain
> Should You Eat Canned Fish?
>
> He mainly talks about canned tuna...but then says  "If you have the
> choice,always choose fresh or frozen fish over canned fish."

If we have a choice...
But, if we don't?

Fresh sardines are rather rare locally and most (if not all) fresh
salmon (available locally) is farmed.

Is there any point directing my diet towards fish if it is all farmed or
canned? Are all the "fish benefits" lost by farming and canning? Which
is better, farmed-fresh or canned? What evidence exists to support the
claims?

These are the kind of questions I (we?) need answered. There is simply
no point in Cordain asserting that canned fish is not as good as fresh
fish if he has no evidence to back up the claim with science. (I haven't
seen his book yet - perhaps he does back it up?)

> Maybe sardines are processed differently,but I would think the same
heating
> process takes place with any canned fish. I don't know for sure. Maybe
> someone else here knows.

My understanding is that Cordain use to participate in this list. Is
that so? Is he still here? Perhaps he could fill in the gaps for us?

> I know there was in inconclusive discussion in the past about
> canned salmon and if it retained much of it's value after canning.
> The stuff Cordain says about canned tuna is kind of scary.

But... remains "inconclusive" if it is not based on science. (Peer
reviewed, science.)

There are a lot of differing ideas regarding the best way to emulate a
Paleo diet in modern times. Some say high meat content, others modest or
low meat content : some say high fat content, others say very lean
(game) meat is best : Audette says sardines are good for us now,
apparently, Cordain suggests that all canned fish are not good. etc.
etc. I was hoping for Cordain's book to help untangle these "opinions"
with science. If Cordain's book is just another collection of "opinions"
it is, for me, redundant. (I will endeavour to obtain a copy to read for
myself. I will not buy a copy though until I see it is worth the
expenditure.)

Jim.

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