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>  'faith' doesn't mean a damned thing except weakness or subscription  
> to gossip:
> liberating experience is what wakes people up and develops  
> characters con
> heuvos.

Faith is an acknowlegement of the remote possibility that maybe just  
maybe we don't know everything there is to know, that there are higher  
guides to that knowledge. The Greeks would call the latter hubris,  
outrageous arrogance. It is such hubris that led us the current state  
of nutritional and exercise science.