On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:05:38 -0400, Jim Hutchinson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Ok, so I was on the Atkins diet for about 6 months and lost 23 pounds,
>almost reached my goal weight of 160 pounds.  But I did not feel that good,
>so I tried the Zone, and felt better but did not like the measuring of food
>types.  Now for the past 6 months I have just reduced my carb intake to veg
>and some fruits.  Also I have incorporated a work out plan using Art
>DeVany's lifting program.  My question is:  do I have to be in Ketosis <
>than 20 grams of carbs to loose weight on the NeanderThin WOE?  I could not
>find it in the book?

The short answer is - not necessarily.

The longer answer is that the principle of NeanderThin - only eat what you could
eat if you were naked with a sharp stick - is not contradictory to any principle
in Atkins or the Zone.   In fact, the new book by the authors of "Protein Power"
- the third low-carb diet usually mentioned together with Atkins and the Zone,
now officially endorses "paleo" as one of its major principles.   And, Dr. Sears
has acknowledged the "paleo" diet as an ideal.

So, you could do Neanderthin and Atkins at the same time, or Neanderthin and the
Zone at the same time.   And, in fact, "Protein Power" recommends doing an
Atkins-like diet at first, until you are close to your goal weight, and then
shifting to a more Zone-like diet (which is easier to do during the
"maintenance" phase, when you don't have to watch the portions, carbs, and fat
content as closely).

Actually, there has been recent and ongoing discussions in this mailing list
about weight loss on Neanderthin.  You can check the archive site under the
threads:

- Mixed Results
- Obesity
- Obesity (was Re: [P-F] Hair-splitting and crankiness)
- Hair-splitting and crankiness


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Cheers,

Ken
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