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> 1. Varied meats?
> 2. acid/alkaline balance (2)
> 3. Flu and other suff
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:00:29 +0100
> From: Geoffrey Purcell <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Varied meats?
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> A large proportion of the meats I eat are wild foods(eg:- raw oysters/sword=
> fish/wild hare/wild mallard duck/scallops/mackerel/samphire)
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> I personally don't trust those websites specialising in wild meats. This i=
> s partly because I suspect the meats of being processed/flown in from abroa=
> d etc.=2C and this is a concern since I'm rawpalaeo=2C but also I find more=
> local sources far more reliable as they are able to provide whole carcasse=
> s at times etc.=2C along with the organ-meats and all.
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> My suggestion:- visit local farmers' markets to see if they sell wild meats=
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> the time and the opportunity to hunt frequently in their spare time) so if=
> you know farmers who hunt you can get a whole deer carcass off them etc. T=
> here are websites describing how to cut up and prepare such carcasses.
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> My local farmers' markets are incredibly cheap=2C and=2C ironically=2C desp=
> ite the fact that=2C nutritionally speaking=2C wild meats way outcompete an=
> y 100% grassfed meats in terms of taste and nutrition=2C they're less expen=
> sive than grassfed meats by far. For example=2C I can get hold of wild mall=
> ard duck for 4 pounds sterling a carcass=2C a wild hare carcass(huge) at be=
> tween 7 to 12 pounds fifty pence a carcass=2C 20 extra-large double-oysters=
> at 17 pounds etc. This may seem excessive by US standards as all UK food =
> prices are astronomically expensive compared to the US=2C but=2C they are i=
> ncredibly cheap by comparison to 100% grassfed/organic meats.
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> Another option is wild game butchers=2C but they're expensive.
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>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Varied meats?
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>> Anyone eat wild meats meats or have ordered from a place like the=20
>> following? This is only an example URL as there are quite a few places=20
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>> http://1-800-exoticmeats.com/
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:39:28 -0500
> From: Kenneth Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: acid/alkaline balance
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> Thanks for all the information on the acid/alkaline balance, plus and
> minus. Cordain's argument's are impressive and I have been following
> them, but I am interested in hearing other ideas.
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> Ken
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:00:45 -0600
> From: "Day, Wally" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Flu and other suff
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>> There is no such thing as a simple caloric calculus despite what the expe=
> rts tell you.
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> OK, so let's use a different term instead. How about food energy (calories =
> being just a measurement of such).
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> The concept that the metabolic processes that convert food into energy (mea=
> sured by calories :) is quite variable - is absolutely true. It is a comple=
> x system. But, that does not mean calories - oops, I mean food energy requi=
> rements and usage - can be ignored and discounted in all cases.=20
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>>and the types of exercise that burn a lot of calories make one really, rea=
> lly hungry. If you are exercising to burn calories, you are all but wastin=
> g your time. The way to lose weight is to control what you eat.
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> Last summer (approximately June through October) I pedaled my bicycle to an=
> d from work every time I went to my office - generally 4 days per week. The=
> distance was 6 to 8 miles each way, The distance and amount of time varied=
> depending on which route variation I took, but in general I was on the bik=
> e for hour or more each day. I calculate that between the bike, and my norm=
> al increased activity level during the summer months (more walking, hiking,=
> gardening, etc), I was burning as much as an extra 1000 calories per day.=
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> The fat simply poured off me as if it were sweat. Although I noted an incre=
> ase in appetite early on, my appetite returned to "normal" within just a co=
> uple weeks. So, hunger did not cause me to increase my food intake. I was n=
> ot "dieting" during this time, and I was not consciously trying to "lose we=
> ight". By September I actually started to worry about my bodyweight droppin=
> g too low, and I had to make a conscious effort to increase my food intake.=
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:04:06 -0400
> From: william <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: acid/alkaline balance
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> Cordain does it again - a neolithic diet of [b]low fat[/b] cooked meat
> and veg. plus fruit. Then he claims, based on nothing, that this was
> eaten by paleolithic man!
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> What a pity that he has deceived so many.
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> William
You really believe Cordain's claims are based on nothing? The man has
devoted his life to basing his claims on science. You may have a
point to
make about your particular diet but dismissing Cordain's work as
"nothing" is ignoble.
Ken
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