I have to admit you are great at throwing around numbers and percentages.

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However, all the numbers and percentages don't change one fact. VEGETARIANS
ARE NOT HEALTHIER THAN MEAT EATERS. MEAT EATING CULTURES ARE HEALTHIER AND
LONGER LIVED THAN VEGETARIAN ONES.
Many long term vegetarians (me included) have realized they had been fooled
by vegan / vegetarian propaganda and bad science.

Many talk about the spiritual purity of vegetarians.
Gandhi was a vegetarian.  He also slept with little girls and drank urine.
Hitler was a vegetarian.......

 "Lucy at the fireplace with tubers. With or without early fire". That sounds
nice, however, it is probably a pile of fecal matter.  It is unlikely that
the human societies at that time could have gathered enough of the tubers to
sustain themselves (without agriculture). Tubers do not taste good raw and
would not be any substantial part of there diet.

Humans are resilient. We can live on just about anything for long periods of
time.  Just look at the garbage standard American diet (probably German too).
Just because we can survive on just about anything doesn't make it good.
Just because you can find a few people who are not damaged by long term
vegetarianism doesn't change anything. A little factoid, vegetarian women
have a higher breast cancer rate.

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Amadeus, I don't know how long you have been a vegetarian (I was over 16
years). But after awhile you might start experiencing symptoms (hopefully
not) that your percentages and numbers won't explain away.
-Gawen


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 Truely attempting to get ones protein from vegetables needs bulk.
 E.g. Fennel (one of my favourite raw) needs 2.2 kg for the 55g progein.
 But 8.5 kg for the  2400 kcal.  And that's 350% protein.
 As our stomach has 2.5 liters volume.. it needs to be filled 3 or 4 times
 for 8.5 kg.

 No wonder, that the gorillas eat permanentely.
 Humans are adapted to somewhat less fibrous and denser matter.
 The teeth are smaller and the colon is shorter.
 Only 2 kg sweetpotatoe (or similar roots) or 400g seeds deliver the
 same energy. Keep in mind the biger brain to nourish.
 Or 2 kg rabbit, to be honest to those who assume meat as the denser
 diet part of homo erectus, and not tubers/seeds.
 I personally would prefer (do prefer) 2kg sweetpotatoe over 2kg rabbit.
 With its nutritional profile the roots seem to be *much* better suited
 especially for a big brain. If it was the game then we would cetrainly have
 evolved double sized kidneys.

 Lucy at the fireplace with tubers. With or without early fire.
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