Maybe there should be a split list, one for paleo-highcarb and one for paleo-
lowcarb.


Padraig, I am in total agreement!  That's a marvelous idea!  Why don't you go off and start the paleo-highcarb list so you can talk with some likeminded souls who might listen.

You might also bear in mind that regardless of the health benefits of a high-meat diet, it appears to cultivate an attitude of courtesy and patience toward trolls.

Andrea

--- On Sat, 7/4/09, Padraig Hogan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Padraig Hogan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Was: Zero Carb, Now Fructose
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 11:24 PM
> ****I can't believe I'm getting so
> many rejected messages, they're not that 
> long****
> 
> >> Fruits are the nearly perfect food (probably
> perfect in the wild), they
> >are the food of choice for all primates. 
> >
> >While fruits are a common food among primates, no
> primates eat a strictly
> >fruitarian diet--that is a human invention--which you
> can read about here:
> >http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-2a.shtml.
> As I
> >mentioned before, all primates, including homo sapiens
> sapiens, eat at least
> >some nonplant foods.
> >
> 
> "Frugivores normally eat some leaves and/or animal matter
> in addition to their 
> primary food of fruit."
> 
> But they typically pass over everything to get to the
> fruit. Again I am NOT a 
> fruitarians, except maybe by their ridiculous definition
> I'm 80-90% sometimes. 
> But even 100% strict fruitarians get vitamin B12 from
> bacteria on the fruit, 
> they might eat the inside shell of a coconut, they might
> swallow seeds 
> sometimes. I can't PROVE that 100% fruitarians would
> prosper if they were 
> eating wild fruits, but I'm fairly positive they would. 
> 
> >I'm not certain that there's one single "perfect" wild
> food for all people.
> >In an ideal world, people would mostly eat the wild
> foods that are native to
> >their region, rather than import tropical fruits from
> thousands of miles
> >away, burning fossil fuels in the process.
> Unfortunately, much of the
> >indigenous flora and fauna of the world have been wiped
> out and many areas
> >are overpopulated, so this is no longer possible.
> >
> >As I said, I've personally found that I don't do well
> if I eat too much
> >fruit and fruit-based products and do much better on a
> diet based on
> >meat/fat/organs than I do even on wild fruit. I'm sorry
> if that upsets you.
> >If you do well on wild fruit, more power to you and
> thanks again for not
> >eating my flesh foods! :-) 
> >
> 
> Maybe there should be a split list, one for paleo-highcarb
> and one for paleo-
> lowcarb. 
> 
> >> I'm not a fanatic. I think I will always take more
> than one serving of
> >fish per week. 
> >
> >That's good to hear. Fanatics bore me. Like you I eat
> what seems to work
> >well for me. I also don't go overboard on criticizing
> an approach until I've
> >tried it myself. I was a little bit skeptical of a very
> low-carb, high-fat
> >approach to a Paleo diet and I asked questions about it
> and investigated
> >carefully, but I postponed any criticisms of it until
> after I had a chance
> >to try it. Upon trying it I find that I'm doing very
> well on it after about
> >6 months of gradual adoption and seem to do better the
> more strict I am
> >about it (though it was not my hope or intention that I
> would have to be
> >strict about it).
> >
> 
> That's good to hear, I don't doubt that you're doing very
> well on it. I might 
> worry a bit for your bones, kidneys, possible cancer risk
> etc... 
>