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Ben,
Thanks for re-posting!
I'm also in process of self-educating, and trying to keep up with the many excellent links being bandied about.  
These are excellent..

-dh
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: Am I a Mess?


  At 4:56 PM -0800 12/30/11, Batsheva wrote:
  >My calcium supplement contains magnesium, K-2, and highly absorbable calcium.  I'm going to run all this by a most excellent naturopath who totally supports paleo,  I just wanted to throw myself to the list here, and see  what came back.  Now, as far as fast cars and chasing  younger men, I'm afraid that as a sheep farmer, the only thing that excites me lately  is a good price per pound on  our  grassfed lamb..... 
  >Thanks for your great reply!
  > 
  >Batsheva

  Hi Batsheva,

  If you are not taking any vitamin K antagonists, like Coumadin (Warfarin Sodium), you might want to consider a higher dose of Vitamin K2.  If you ARE taking any vitamin K antagonists then read no further.


  Until recently, the highest dose supplement that I could find was around 2,000 mcg (micrograms).  In Japan, they regularly prescribe 45 mg (milligrams) per day for bone issues.  That is 45,000 mcg (micrograms) per day.  I increased my dosage from 2,000 mcg to 30 mg per day after reading some of the research.

  Here are some links to articles and products that should answer any questions that you may have about safe dosage, effective dosage, etc.

  PS - from the Wikipedia page:
  "...there is no known toxicity associated with high doses of the phylloquinone (vitamin K1) or menaquinone (vitamin K2) forms of vitamin K and therefore no tolerable upper intake level (UL) has been set."

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  Wikipedia entry
  many good references
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_K<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_K>

  Vitamin K articles from "Life Extension Magazine" from 2000-2010

  I would start with this one.
  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/mar2008_Protecting-Bone-And-Arterial-Health-With-Vitamin-K2_01.htm<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/mar2008_Protecting-Bone-And-Arterial-Health-With-Vitamin-K2_01.htm>

  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2000/feb00-report.html<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2000/feb00-report.html>
  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_aas_01.htm<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_aas_01.htm>
  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/ss2006_report_vitamink_01.htm<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/ss2006_report_vitamink_01.htm>
  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2009/jan2009_Vitamin-K-Protection-Against-Arterial-Calcification-Bone-Loss-Cancer-Aging_01.htm<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2009/jan2009_Vitamin-K-Protection-Against-Arterial-Calcification-Bone-Loss-Cancer-Aging_01.htm>
  http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/nov2010_The-Remarkable-Anticancer-Properties-of-Vitamin-K_01.htm<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/nov2010_The-Remarkable-Anticancer-Properties-of-Vitamin-K_01.htm>


  This article at the Weston A. Price foundation, from Feb. 13, 2008, is by Chris Masterjohn

  "On the Trail of the Elusive X-Factor: A Sixty-Two-Year-Old Mystery Finally Solved"
  http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/x-factor-is-vitamin-k2<http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/x-factor-is-vitamin-k2>

  Some info about Chris Masterjohn: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/about-cholesterol-and-health.html<http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/about-cholesterol-and-health.html>

  Here is Chris's cholesterol website: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/<http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/>

  and his "The Daily Lipid" blog: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/>

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  I went with Vitamin Research Products as a reputable supplier.  Life Extension carries also carries their product.

  Vitamin Research Products (15 mg, 90 capsules)

  LEF link - $32.97
  http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item30487/Ultra-K2-Menatetrenone.html<http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item30487/Ultra-K2-Menatetrenone.html>

  Vitamin Research Products link - $49.95 for a single bottle, $34.97 ea. for 6
  http://www.vrp.com/bone-and-joint/ultra-k2<http://www.vrp.com/bone-and-joint/ultra-k2>

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