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There's a group devoted specifically to Intermittent Fasting at this address:-
 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fasting/
 
It has a lot of anecdotal info from members.
 
I've found IF to work very well for me. Alternate Day Fasting was not successful for me in the long run, but I manage very well on 1 meal a day, large or small depending on my appetite, and I also fast for a day or three, here and there. Eating all the time just seems to be unnecessary, and I find that fasting does really help boost one's concentration/healing etc.
 
 
Geoff> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:51:33 -0800> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Intermittent Fasting> To: [log in to unmask]> > Thanks. Lots of good sources to follow up - I'll get back to you if I have questions after I've done that. The 36-hour limit to avoid muscle wasting - do you know what research that number is based on?> > Did it take awhile for your body to get on program? This is my third day of fasting (interspersed with low-calorie, <40g carb days) and my bg on awaking was 60. Okay, a little low...but after half an hour of cardio it had risen to 81, and after a tablespoon of coconut oil with my supplements it had risen to 95! Not only is that higher than the research-endorsed goal of 83, it doesn't make sense. Anyone have similar experiences?> > Andrea> > > --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Joseph Berne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:> > > From: Joseph Berne <[log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: Intermittent Fasting> > To: [log in to unmask]> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 12:52 PM> > I've been IFing for 2 years now. I can't speak to> > the whole idea of> > cleansing or detoxifying (I don't personally buy into> > those), but do it more> > for help with insulin management (going long periods with,> > in theory, lower> > insulin levels) and alertness. I found it easy to exercise> > and function on> > no food after a short adjustment period.> > > > Try reading "The Warrior Diet" - I don't> > agree with everything in it, but it> > describes a type of intermittent fasting. Google Fast-5> > for a free ebook> > about daily IF (fasting for a period of time each day, as> > opposed to ADF,> > where one fasts for a full day, then eats for a day, etc.) > > There is a blog> > called leangains (Ithink it's on blogspot) on using IF> > to control body> > composition. Rob Wolf has a bunch of posts on his blog and> > at> > crossfit.comabout IF and exercise. Art Devany talks about> > it a lot,> > but I'm not sure> > how much of his content is still free. Michael Eades> > discussed IF a couple> > of times on his blog, but has backed off a little recently.> > > > I apologize for not having links, I'm writing from work> > and my access to the> > internet is spotty and controlled by a very aggressive> > filter :(> > > > Most IF people advocate keeping fasts inside 36 hours to> > avoid muscle> > wasting. I've had no trouble building muscle on a 20/4> > split. If you need> > more info, please e-mail and I'll work on it tonight.> > > > From a paleo perspective, the conventional wisdom that we> > can't peform> > athletically unless we eat every 3 hours doesn't really> > make sense - would> > we really have evolved to be poor hunters when hungry? It> > seems more likely> > that our ability to hunt would be enhanced when we're> > most likely to want to> > hunt - when our bellies are empty!> > > > I still remember my first 90 minute sparring class on ADF -> > not fun! Now> > it's no problem, though.> > > > Andrea Hughett wrote:> > > > > I've become interested in trying IF - well,> > actually, I AM trying it but> > >> want to know what I'm doing. Can you point me> > to articles, books, websites,> > >> etc that would give me more information? Or> > personal experiences - while> > >> anecdotal evidence is not scientifically> > conclusive, it can be fascinating.> > >>> > >> I'm also looking for studies on more extended> > fasting - how long can one> > >> go on severely reduced calorie and protein intake> > (greens and a few nuts)> > >> before muscle wasting and metabolic slowdown set> > in?> > >>> > >> Andrea> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > -- > > Visit my Training blog:> > http://karateconditioning.supersized.org> > > 
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