jean-claude wrote:
> There is grape and grape.,the north american varieties of table grape have
> nothing to do with real grapes.

Jean-Claude, is there a name for this variety of 'real grape'?  Is is
possible to purchase them in north america?  I've had concord grapes,
which
are used to make certain wines, but I have a feeling you're not
talking
about these.  Count me as another person who isn't terribly fond of
the
regular sugary 'plastic' grapes, as you so aptly describe them.

Cheyenne