Does anyone know if I keep my carbs to around 50g a day, will that be  
low enough to help me lose some weight. I have been on this for about  
4 weeks and not see a lot of results. I would say that my old way of  
eating was typical so I think It should help. Thanks for your input.  
Bryan

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On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Robert Kesterson <[log in to unmask]>  
wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:35:25 -0500, Ron Hoggan, Ed. D. <[log in to unmask] 
> > wrote:
>>
>> Is it so difficult to allow others to express their zero carb  
>> perspective?
>
> Not at all.  But if you don't like what's on, you can always change  
> the channel.
>
>> You could, of course, start another listserv, but why not debate  
>> the issues instead of expressing intolerance?
>
> It has been debated before, with the end result being to continue to  
> disagree.  It's not a matter of intolerance so much as just getting  
> tired of it.  My finger has hovered over the unsubscribe button more  
> than a few times, but I remain because there is good information  
> here, and good intent, even if it does wind up heavily slanted in  
> one direction.
>
>> ... bone health ...
>
> I don't know enough about that to debate it.  IMO, the best defense  
> against bone problems is weight-bearing exercise.
>
>> On the other hand, many vegetarians from some parts of India (where  
>> there is abundant sunlight for making vitamin D) show clear signs  
>> of osteopenia and osteoporosis. According to the received wisdom  
>> you tout, ...
>
> I don't think anyone has suggested becoming vegetarian.  It's just  
> the "all carbs are evil" mantra that gets old.  Maybe all carbs are  
> evil for some people, but that doesn't mean they are for everyone.   
> I applaud those people who have gone zero carb and it cured whatever  
> ill they had.  But there are also people who have done the  
> opposite.  It's all anecdotal -- which is fine.  But then it seems  
> to go from that to "paleo man wouldn't eat an apple if it was  
> sitting in front of him because he ate nothing but fat and organ  
> meats".
>
> Man is not a pure carnivore.  He is an omnivore, a hunter-gatherer.   
> He "hunted" animals and "gathered" plants, fruits, nuts, seeds,  
> roots, insects, and so on -- clearly not zero carb.  Does that mean  
> that the paleo diet *must* include carbs?  Of course not.  But it  
> also means that their complete exclusion is not a requirement either.
>
>> Nobody has all the answers.
>
> On that, I think we all agree.  :-)
>
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