----- "Ron Hoggan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
> Hi Todd, 
> Do you track your level of ketosis? If so, I'm betting that you are 
> either out of ketosis or down to trace ketosis in the AM. Maybe there is 
> some refined sugar added to the meats you are eating, or maybe you are 
> eating carbs too late in the day ( late supper or evening snacks? ). I 
> will shift down to trace ketosis from snacking on nuts or even eating 
> bacon in the evening. Or maybe none of these apply. 
> best wishes, 
> Ron 

Ron, I don't track ketosis. I seldom eat any kind of processed meat anymore, and very rarely have nuts. As for timing of carbs, it has varied a lot. I usually eat dinner around 6:00 pm. As I say, even zero carb hasn't made a difference. Reducing protein tends to increase my appetite quite a lot, so zero carb with low protein is very difficult for me; I experience intense hunger. After two days of fat fasting I'm insanely hungry. If I eat unrestricted amounts of fat, I can keep the hunger at bay, but of course I don't lose weight either. 

Todd Moody