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Todd Moody wrote:
> > Ahh, this might explain some things. People who can eat seemingly insane
> > amounts of calories and not gain weight (I am usually one of them) do so only
> > when eating virtually no carbs, high fat, and appropriate protein. When I go
> > up to 4000 or 5000 calories/day it's in the extra fat. My fat calories are
> > much higher than my protein calories.  You are eating enough carbs and protein
> > to stay out of ketosis and your calories from things that can convert to glucose
> > are higher than calories from fat. Try lowering your carbs (I usually keep to
> > 15-20gm/day, and that is counting all carbs, even what you get in nearly carb
> > free foods such as eggs).
>
> The diet that Barry described is not the one that he gained
> weight on -- that was the all-meat diet.  Rather, he was
> describing the one that he has managed to lose weight on: high
> protein, low-carb, moderate fat.
>
> To make an all-meat diet a high-fat diet, it is generally
> necessary to find additional sources of fat, beyond what is
> naturally in the meat.  Fatty ground beef is okay, I think,
> because it has extra fat added in.  HGs would use the extra fat
> from bone marrow, etc.
The one he described was all I had to go on. I guess I made an assumption that
as he increased calories either/both protein/carbs went up somewhat as well.
Thus his carb/protein was probably a bit high (100gm of carbs /day is high
as is for a low carb diet).

> > It's not really high fat - it's low carbs and appropriate protein.  The rest
> > comes from fat, which usually means high fat.
>
> Usually?  If the carbs are as low as you recommend, and the
> protein is appropriate, then the bulk of calories must come from
> fat.
I said usually because sometimes people just drop calories to 1200 (or even
lower, even when doing low carb) thus the total amount of fat isn't all that
high. I have seen more than one person attempt a low carb/low fat/low calorie
diet just because they are too conditioned by the popular opinion to eat
enough fat. On 1200 calories /day and 150gm of protein and 50gm of carbs you
get 600 calories from protein 200 from carbs and only 400 from fat - not
a high fat diet.

Ilya

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