Correction: It's"Ron Hoggan not Ron Hoggin" as stated previously.
sorry Ron.....

Don Hogan wrote:
> Hanni,
> I don't think  it's the carbo in grains that is the issue other then 
> it is concentrated and devoid of most other nutrients. Vegetables and 
> fruit are also carbo based. The issue, at least for me, is the "alien 
> protiens'  in grains such as glutin, gliadin and all sorts of lectins 
> etc.,  that are  well described in Ron Hoggins's book "Dangerous 
> Grains." Apparently these 'alien proteins'  can be passed on to those 
> eating the grain fed meat. The bad effects may be diluted to some 
> degree but they still pass on like a parasite going through its 
> morphic cycles.
> Don
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> hanni wienkoop wrote:
>> The protein differs from carbohydrates through one atom and that is 
>> Nitrogen (N). Although pigs are fed grain based diet are they still 
>> creatig flesh full of protein in spite of what they are fed. Can 
>> anyone give an explanation for that.
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>> Hanni
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary McClure" 
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>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: pork
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>>> Jeuxles wrote:
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>>>> I have never seen 100% no-grain fed pork despite extensive 
>>>> searching online and otherwise.  Even the highest quality farmers 
>>>> which give the impression of raising organic pigs in the most 
>>>> traditional manner on pasture and acorn filled forests, still feed 
>>>> them grains as well.
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>>> I'm raising some pigs with no grain. They're eating nothing but hay, 
>>> grass clippings, and cheese. Lots of cheese, and also some sour 
>>> cream and cottage cheese. It's mostly surplus trimmings from a big 
>>> commercial dairy cooperative. I wonder what that does to the 
>>> nutritional qualities. I'm a little concerned about it, but am glad 
>>> they're not getting any grain.
>>>
>>> Hilary
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