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Ingrid Bauer <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:52:59 -0800
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>jean-claude:
>>My explaination is that once my body had no daily poisonning by the
mercury
>>amalgams stored in my mouth, the immune system awaken from its state of "
>>tolerance"to this daily poisonning, and started the elimination job of
>>mercury from the tissues to out side the body. I The presence of mercury
in
>>the fatty part of the fish might have triggered an immune response and
>>facilited the elimination of mercury from my own tissues..
>
>And maybe you needed your daily dose of mercury.

the mechanism that i tried to described above , is exactely the one
responsible for addiction (IMO)
the body try to be on top of the elimination process, and choose first to
eliminate before storing the toxin. When the elimination capacity of the
body is overwhelmed , the body choose the storing in tissues , ,away from
the daily metabolism. The goal being to limit the amount of the poison or
toxin in the circulating blood
In the example of somebody addicted to coffee for example, after the night
when the body take advantage to eliminate the caffeine , the circulating
poison create unpleasant symptoms,  that are best stopped by swallowing a
new dose of caffeine,  forcing the body to go in the storing mood ( to limit
the amount of circulating cafeine) so the feel better.
there is nothing wrong with wanting to feel good by doing so , just that it
create an endless viscious cycle.
(My attraction to sword fish and tuna lasted only one week after i had no
desire to eat them, i didn't get addicted to mercury)
>
>Seriously, why wouldn't the simple presence of mercury in your body trigger
>an elimination?
because there is a big difference in the effects of stored poison in fatty
tissues  away from the daily metabolism, and the effects of the same poison
circulating in the blood. For the body to be able to eliminate ( bring back
in circulation)  the poison,  it might need some molecules to bound to ,  so
it is safer , more stable, while in the blood , on his way out of the body
( mercury molecules are found mostly in the fatty tissues of fish. showing
the reluctance of the body' s fish to eliminate it )
Lot of intense poisons are known to concentrate along the food chain ,
demonstrating that animals as humans have hard time to eliminate quicker
than they are assimilating.
Why would you need toxic fish to do that?
The body immune system might need to be triggered by some external agent to
reverse its tendancy to render atoxic the poison ,( by storing it) and start
an elimination process  from old storages.

 And further, why
>wouldn't those who have been overloaded with mercury from heavy fish
>consumption similarily detox such stuff as they ate more and more? Or when
>they stopped consumption?
It is just question of degree of poisoning , the body have at any time to
choose between eliminating or storing.
If the absobtion of mercury is great necessarely the body will have to
circulate lot of mercury to be eliminated  and the immune system will have
to become more "tolerant" to high levels of circulating mercury. to be able
survive the situation .and eliminate more.
Removing a source of poisonning is in self triggering the elimination .
And maybe in my situation,  this curious atraction to tuna and sword fish
that lasted one week following the last extraction was so i don't eliminate
too quickly, or and , like i said before , to start a specific pathway of
elimination with specific molecules involved .
i took it anyway as making the elimination safer!


(Perhaps they should have fresh amalgams after
>stopping fatty fish consumption in order to stimulate a detox?

Again , the mercury leaching out from amalgam is way more dangerous than a
chelated molecule of mercury to fat molecule. It is not the same at all.

Why
>would the "instinct" not protect one from mercury poisoning since it has a
>definate taste?
We allready had a conversation about that . The instinct doesn't protect you
from eating something that you are not genetically prepared to deal with.
The concentration of mercury in the food chain is,  evolution wise,  a very
recent phenomenon.
I am not aware myself of a specific taste of mercury poisonned food., versus
a mercury free.food
 I am curious about knowing more about that ! What is your experience in
that?
>
>And, why don't you raise your own animals since you know so fully what is
>right and proper, instead of haggling with the folks who actually bother to
>raise animals themselves? Or why not hunt?

I am in the process of doing it more and more , but mostly i am well aware
that i can't do it all , and even if i could  i am not meant to do it alone.
I am called to bring peoples in that direction too. My " haggling" ( i learn
lot of new word with you ) of my friends might have a lot to do with  them
raising organic eggs instead of commercial ones ( what they were doing
before, despite being certified organic farmers for their vegetables)
I do hunt everything i can hunt without too much skill  or sophisticated
tools and am considering getting more and more skills .
Ask my friend from Hawai, who came to visit me ,  how we managed to fish
shrimps  with an old recycled bicycle wheel   and a piece of old garden net,
while visiting Orcas island ( not very paleo but it works) or how we failed
hunting Quail with stones ( very paleo but not very efficient)
It is true that we were eating crabs when the quail came to visit us , ( not
very paleo to hunt when not hungry)
>And your bees, oh so natural, must have been "(somewhat unhealthy if wasps
>ran them out. How can that be, if nature's way is so supreme? ;)

And you don't see any sarcasm in your questions? !
jean-claude

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