I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes.  I have not yet been
prescribed any drugs but was sent to the diabetes center for education.  I
was quite taken aback by the diet I was given and told my doctor that I
couldn't believe they weren't telling people to cut the breads, ice cream,
desserts, etc.  As long as you keep your carbs servings to 2 servings per
meal, you can eat anything you want.  1/2 cup of ice cream is a serving.
One piece of bread is a serving.  Shocking to me.

Kim

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Adrienne Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/11/2008 3:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> I love that book.  He discusses diabetes on Pages 103-104.  He identifies 4
> distinct classes of diabetics.  Class 1 are what he calls the "total
> diabetic"
> and says they would "more or less instantly die without insulin".  Classes
> 2
> &
> 3 are what he deems respectively "severe" and "moderate".  The severe --
> class 2 -- he claims "has a regular insulin need to keep from losing
> weight."
> Class 3 -- the moderate -- he believes  is the most common type and he
> tells
> one
> particular patient who he feels this form to "see what happens when you
> stop
> taking insulin" -- in addition to his meat/fat and water regime.  The class
> 4
> --
> what he deems mild diabetics are the only ones he claims can get their
> wieght
> normal by stopping flour, sugar and alcohol.  But there are type 2
> diabetics
> of normal weight yet with neuropathy caused by too high blood sugars.
>  Modern
> docs generally make the diagnosis only after a person has been running
> their
> sugars up for years causing all kinds of damage.  My own endo -- a
> purported
> diabetes expert but thankfully I don't see him for diabetes -- claims
> anything
> under 140 is "normal".  No wonder diabetes is such big business!
>
> I forgot to add that nowhere does Donaldson claim that a pure meat/fat and
> water diet is a holy grail cure for all forms of diabetes.  Rather, only
> the
> "mild diabetics" can be assured normal weight -- but normal weight does not
> necessarily mean normal blood glucose.  The chances are likely best that it
> could
> mean that for a mild type 2 diabetic but as far as more advanced type 2s or
> type 1.5s (LADA) or pure type 1s -- no added glucose lowering meds  such as
> metformin, glucophage etc (for the type 2s) or insulin ( for some type tpe
> 2s and
> all type 1s) would mean complications or the type 2s and certain death for
> type
> 1s.  No type 1 can diet their way out of this awful disease.  A low-carb
> paleo approach is best for all forms, but only a cure from symptoms for
> milder
> forms of diabetes -- certainly no cure for type 1s in the sense they need
> to take
> added insulin or they will die.  I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here
> but I just buried my father recently and much of his suffering as a
> diabetic
> was caused by his "diabetes specialist".  Ironically, it was his cancer doc
> who
> repeatedly told him to drop all grains and all sugar/fruit and replace them
> with non-starchy vegetables  -- but his diabetes doc kept telling him that
> was
> nonsense and he should stick with the ADA diet.  My father felt the
> diabetes
> doc knew more about diabetes and plus he liked the idea of eating basically
> whatever he wanted so long as he could shoot himself up with insulin to
> bring his
> sugar down.  the addictions to carbos, sweets etc are as strong as heroine
> or
> booze .  By the time his kidneys began to fail, he had passed the point of
> no
> return.
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