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"Kirk A. Kleinschmidt" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:25:04 -0600
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Hmmm...

I might have a couple of difficulties with that approach...

First, As a longtime low-carber I can tell you that if I drank fruit juice
in quantities greater than a thimbleful, I'd never lose another ounce of
weight. I'm down 50 pounds...but I have another 40 to go! In fact, I'd
probably GAIN weight if I drank fruit juice.

Second, I'm kinda surprised to hear folks mention so much juice-drinking of
the PF list. Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't most juice "pasteurized"
or cooked/heated in some way before freezing/canning? And if it is heated,
isn't all or most of the froctose converted to sucrose, providing a
powerful "straight liquid sugar" insulin response?

Anyway, with my low "critical carbohydrate level," I just don't think juice
-- even if fresh-squeezed -- is an alternative for me...

Other comments/opinions are invited.

And what about cyclamates (SP?) or Stevia (SP?) On the PF rating scale, how
do these sweetners compare to aspartame, Sweet-N-Low, honey, regular sugar,
etc?

Thanks,

--Kirk, in Minnesota


re:


At 07:12 PM 12/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>>I've substituted herbal teas for coffee...but I can't seem to eliminate
>>>"Sween-N-Low" entirely. I've cut sweetner usage by 70%, but I REALLY PREFER
>>>tea with a little sweetner. Is this going to mess up my plan in the long
>run?
>>
>>Yes. What you need to do is to wean yourself off very slowly. Over a period
>>of a couple weeks reduce the remaining amount used slightly each time.
>>
>
>I'd suggest sticking to plain old sugar rather than the newfangled
>chemicals; at least it started out as the sap of a real plant.  Besides, --
>those of you with more technical expertise, pelase check me on this one --
>cane sugar is chemically not much different from the fructose found in
>fruit, so I think technically, sugar is "Caveman kosher."  Just don't eat
>the huge quantities that you find in modern snacks, drinks, and condiments.
>
>Regarding Don's comment about weaning yourself gradually, I agree.  I drank
>2+ cans of Coke per day for most of my life, and I thought it would be hard
>to quit.  But I started keeping fruit juice in the fridge, and just
>gradually shifted over; it was really quite painless.
>

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