JUSTIN SAID:
There seems to be quite a few people on the list who believe ketosis is
optimal for health and athletic performance.
KEN REPLIED:
(1) I don't believe that I have read anyone on this list - with the
exception of yourself - who is concerned with athletic performance.
JUSTIN'S REPLY:
Philip is a bodybuilder.  And there's a handful of others on the list who
use HIT as a means to increasing strength.  So, although there aren't many
competitive athletes on the list, there's quite a few athletes.

KEN SAYS:
Most list members are using athletic exercise merely as a health benefit and
recreation.
JUSTIN'S REPLY:
I don't believe the 2 have to be mutually exclusive.  If someone wants to be
as anaerobically strong as possible, then this has health benefits.  If you
build more lean tissue, then you'll have a faster metabolism, even if you're
just sitting in a chair.  I think a balance between health and athletics is
best.  This way you get the best of both worlds.

KEN SAYS:
(2) Your various statements about saturated fat, carbohydrates, etc. may or
may not be true.   Anecdotal statements about perceived changes due to
personal dietary changes are meaningless, especially in quantities of 1 or 2
as given in your post.
JUSTIN'S REPLY:
"May or may not be true"?!  Well, thanks for clearing that up!!  If
anecdotal evidence due to personal dietary changes is meaningless, then
there are a lot of meaningless posts on this list.  As far as I'm concerned,
anecdotal evidence from personal dietary changes is the best evidence b/c it
shows what works best *for you.*  I don't care what any 'scientific' study
'proves.'  After all, most of them are conflicting anway.

KENS SAYS:
For example, you state: "For starters, eating the fatty cuts of meat that
are loaded with saturated fat will negatively effect insulin resistance."
In actuality, the body will actually manufacture saturated fat.
JUSTIN'S REPLY:
I think Todd posted a link about lipids a few weeks ago that discussed the
effects of saturated fat on insulin resistance.

KENS SAYS:
I went to the trouble of asking someone who spends a lot of time reading
medical studies about this issue.   He replied: "The reports I've seen
suggest exactly the opposite, although they are not
looking specifically at insulin resistance. My focus has been on spikes in
plasma glucose and insulin after a meal. The evidence suggests that these
are mediated by saturated fats. This data thus suggests that saturated fats
should have a mediating impact on insulin resistance."
JUSTIN REPLIES:
What reports has he seen?  I'm not just going to take the word of anyone who
spends "a lot of time" (how long is that by the way?) reading medical
studies.  And most of the studies are done wrong anyway.  "The evidence
suggests that these are mediated by saturated fats."  What evidence?  How
about a few references?  "This data suggests that blah blah..."  What data
are you talking about?

Looking forward to your reply,
Justin Hasselman
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