I note that you have neglected to support your accusations about my
character, yet you seem to see fit to take the "risk" of continuing the
debate with such a distasteful character as myself...  However, I'll take
a chance, and give it another shot...

Well... you say that the information you accept shows that humans evolved
to virtually their current state about 2 million years ago, and that they
then managed to survive without fire for about a half million years
beyond that.  Of course, during that period, they would not have had
access to any of the foods which requires fire to make them edible.  Of
course, that means that not only did they evolve for millions of years
without those "non-paleo" foods, but they also managed to survive quite
well for a heck of a long time after becoming fully human.  After all the
fuss you've kicked up, you seem to be confirming what I've stated from
the beginning...  I don't see your problem with Ray's theories...

As for modern "paleo" people eating food raw, that's an entirely
different discussion which has no place in the basic discussion of which
foods could have been eaten by pre-tech humans.

I still await your evidence of my unprovoked mistreatment of you, or your
retraction of those accusations.


On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:00:47 EST Sheryl Canter <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> Wally wrote:
> > No matter what the actual date is,
> the fact remains that, as Ray suggests, the human animal had
> evolved
> substantially to its current state (particularly in terms of the
> digestive system) BEFORE the use of fire.
>
> Ray may have said this, but that doesn't mean it's correct.  (Also
> note that
> Ray himself does not eat raw meat.)
>
> The human animal appeared in its modern form about 2 million years
> ago (see
> "The Paleolithic Prescription", Eton Boyd et al).  The most recent
> evidence
> says that humans have had the use of fire for at least 1.5 million
> years.
> That means that humans had the use of fire for virtually their time
> on earth.
>
>      - Sheryl
>
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