You got hungry sooner from the cheese and nuts because of the carbohydrates they contain.  Eat fatty meats, eat the fat first, then the lean.  Eat until you are sated.  Sometimes I only eat once a day because I am not hungry.  I only eat meat.  Meat should only be cooked medium or less.
Use the money you are spending on the ketostix to buy meat.  If you get your carbs low enough you will keto adapt and not spill ketones out in your urine anyway.




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From: Hilary McClure <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:45:56 PM
Subject: Re: Counting Calories?

In my opinion, counting calories is silly when you eat right. Hunger seems to become naturally regulated. I've tried mostly just animal foods the last couple of weeks to see if I'll lose a bit more fat. If I have two Alaskan salmon burgers for breakfast and some olive oil mayo, or one salmon burger and two eggs and mayo, I find I'm not a bit hungry again for about five hours. Then I'll have steak or a burger, and be good for another five hours. What I'm trying to do now is not eat anything after six or seven at night. That way, you don't have any elevation of insulin while you're sleeping, which is a time (all night long) when fatty acids are free to flow and be burned. Without elevated insulin, your resting metabolic rate should be higher (even during sleep), as far as I understand it. Protein seems, in my recent experience and according to some of the paleo experts, to have a higher satiety value than fat, even. Not sure if that's true. But when I was
 eating more cheese and nuts I seemed to get hungrier sooner.

You mentioned body clean-out. I generally regard talk of de-tox and clean-out as misguided pseudo-science blather, but here is a link to an interesting post on that topic from Michael Eades's excellent blog:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ketones-and-ketosis/ketosis-cleans-our-cells/

For many people it seems to take a few days to a week or even more to adjust to ketosis. Our metabolisms are all a bit different, within limits. An overweight woman I know recently seemed to take three weeks, at least, to start feeling good, and to start getting some darker color on the ketostix, and to start actually losing weight. Had some pretty bad insomnia, too. Fortunately, she had read Atkins and Taubes, and has seen my success over the years, so she stuck with it. She's a doctor, too, and will be able to use her personal experience to help inspire patients.

Hilary


----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Feickert" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Counting Calories?


> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm new to this list but have been enjoying the insights everyone has!  I've
> been eating Paleo for about a month now.  I came to this WOE due to
> breastfeeding a newborn with food sensitivities (dairy, gluten, sugar) and a
> need to address candida issues I've had for 10 years.  My previous diet was
> mainly based on Weston Price (although I was far from perfect) and included
> grass fed meats, raw milk, pastured eggs, organic produce, etc.  I can't
> believe how much better I feel eating Paleo!  I thought a traditional foods
> diet was helpful but cutting out grain has been an incredible boost to my
> system.
> 
> 
> 
> Up until 3 days ago I would guess my diet consisted of about 50% fat and
> probably 25% protein and 25% carbs (my naturopath is very pro-Paleo and
> encourages high fat intake).  I've been reading the book Primal Body, Primal
> Mind and have been encouraged to try to increase my fat intake which over
> the last three days has been 74-80% with 10-15% each for protein and carbs.
> I am watching my carbs carefully and staying under 100 grams a day. But I
> have a couple of questions:
> 
> 
> 
> --Do I need to worry about calorie intake or will that naturally regulate?
> I tried to watch my calories for the first two days (ate about 2,000
> calories each day) but I was really hungry by day three so yesterday it was
> about 2500 calories (still under 100 grams of carbs coming from nuts and
> vegetables).  I'm worried about being hungry and restricting calories
> because I don't want to be miserable and I need to maintain a healthy
> breastmilk supply.  But I also would like to lose some weight.  It doesn't
> have to come off really fast (I know better) but eventually would be nice!
> (For what it's worth, I'm 5'9" and 174 lbs.-I'd like to get back to around
> 150 lbs.)  So far my breast milk supply is good and my baby is doing well
> (has gained over 3 lbs. in 7 weeks).  I don't formally exercise (just
> chasing a very active toddler) but I'm going to start (only for purposes of
> being in better shape-not as a weight loss tool).
> 
> 
> 
> --How long does it take for a body to switch over to being happy with a high
> fat diet (using ketones for fuel, etc.)?  Is it the same day you start
> eating a high fat diet or does it take awhile?  I've been feeling a little
> yucky since switching to 70-80% fat and my body seems to be cleaning itself
> out (sorry TMI).  I feel like I'm giving my body only really good food
> (pastured meats, eggs and animal fats; coconut oil; nuts and nut butters
> mainly that have been soaked and dried; organic produce; a little bit of raw
> honey, etc.).
> 
> 
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> 
> Julie
> 
>