> Vaccines have some potential negative effects. Sure. But the choice is
> between these effects and the actual diseases they prevent.

not obvious at all that immunisations have had an effect on diminution of
thoses diseases .takes the time to look at the entirety of the curves .They
were allready drastically going down before immunisations .
proponents of immunisation omit to show thoses.
and even if it had  , it might not be for the best .it is a trade off
between bacterial ,  viral diseases  and degenerative diseases

Symptoms becomes dangerous and overwhelmoing  only when the body is weakened
by stress or malnutrition  or when newly and abruptly exposed to a virus or
bacteria as in the case of natives dying from small pox and other .

 ,A well nourished body is able to regulate the profileration of the
Infection and even might be the orchestra leader of the process ( allowing
and regulating  bacterias and viruses to perform a job that the cells could
not have done on their own )
The experience of peoples eating a paleo raw diet instinctivelly ( without
mixing foods , sesonning or processing in any way and chosen by sense of
taste and smell ) have shown the very mild  asymptomatic manifestation of
those processes .
chimpanzee raised in captivity with their close to natural diet ( necessary
for them to survive in those conditions )
have revealed themselves bad tools for aid research as they din't manifeste
symptoms when injected with the equivalent of aid virus for chimps . On the
opposite greens monkeys fed an industrial food did very willingly developped
symptoms for joy of researchers .

Repressing with antibiotics and immunisation those processes will be
discovered as a major reasons of the epidemic of degenerative diseases .
that ensued.
species coevolve and need to,  to keep in tune with the great process of
life . viruses as travelling genetic material inside and outside species
might be the engine of this tuning of relationships ... as is eating by the
way .

we are not separate and don't want to be .( if we want to continue to be
part of the game )

jean-claude