In a message dated 11/11/2008 3:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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I love that book.  He discusses diabetes on Pages 103-104.  He identifies 4 
distinct classes of diabetics.  Class 1 are what he calls the "total 
diabetic" 
and says they would "more or less instantly die without insulin".  Classes 2 
& 
3 are what he deems respectively "severe" and "moderate".  The severe -- 
class 2 -- he claims "has a regular insulin need to keep from losing weight." 
Class 3 -- the moderate -- he believes  is the most common type and he tells 
one 
particular patient who he feels this form to "see what happens when you stop 
taking insulin" -- in addition to his meat/fat and water regime.  The class 4 
-- 
what he deems mild diabetics are the only ones he claims can get their wieght 
normal by stopping flour, sugar and alcohol.  But there are type 2 diabetics 
of normal weight yet with neuropathy caused by too high blood sugars.  Modern 
docs generally make the diagnosis only after a person has been running their 
sugars up for years causing all kinds of damage.  My own endo -- a purported 
diabetes expert but thankfully I don't see him for diabetes -- claims 
anything 
under 140 is "normal".  No wonder diabetes is such big business!

I forgot to add that nowhere does Donaldson claim that a pure meat/fat and 
water diet is a holy grail cure for all forms of diabetes.  Rather, only the 
"mild diabetics" can be assured normal weight -- but normal weight does not 
necessarily mean normal blood glucose.  The chances are likely best that it could 
mean that for a mild type 2 diabetic but as far as more advanced type 2s or 
type 1.5s (LADA) or pure type 1s -- no added glucose lowering meds  such as 
metformin, glucophage etc (for the type 2s) or insulin ( for some type tpe 2s and 
all type 1s) would mean complications or the type 2s and certain death for type 
1s.  No type 1 can diet their way out of this awful disease.  A low-carb 
paleo approach is best for all forms, but only a cure from symptoms for milder 
forms of diabetes -- certainly no cure for type 1s in the sense they need to take 
added insulin or they will die.  I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here 
but I just buried my father recently and much of his suffering as a diabetic 
was caused by his "diabetes specialist".  Ironically, it was his cancer doc who 
repeatedly told him to drop all grains and all sugar/fruit and replace them 
with non-starchy vegetables  -- but his diabetes doc kept telling him that was 
nonsense and he should stick with the ADA diet.  My father felt the diabetes 
doc knew more about diabetes and plus he liked the idea of eating basically 
whatever he wanted so long as he could shoot himself up with insulin to bring his 
sugar down.  the addictions to carbos, sweets etc are as strong as heroine or 
booze .  By the time his kidneys began to fail, he had passed the point of no 
return.
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