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June Kamerling <[log in to unmask]>
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Thanks
On Feb 24, 2013 1:01 PM, "Sarah Krans" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> What kind of arthritis are you talking about?  Osteoarthritis (which seems
> to be the catch-all for doctors these days)?  What is seen on bones all
> depends on the preservation of the as it is usually the ends of bones that
> don't preserve well and what method of examine/recording is used.  Bone
> remodelling or porosity by itself would not qualify on bones as
> osteoarthritis.  Eburnation (glossing of the surface of the bones) is
> sometimes used as the only means of diagnosing osteoarthritis.
> Osteoarthritis is typically found more regarding activity (so wrists and
> ankles, shoulders, hips, knees, etc).  Plus, there is no way of determining
> a specific diet other than hunter-gatherer and agrarian (based on other
> archaeological data in addition to stable isotope analysis).  There is no
> way of determining inflammation as we might experience it from the bones -
> just like you can't infer a level of 'pain' from possible arthritis
> indicators.
>
> Also, osteoarthritis ISN'T an autoimmune disorder - Rheumatoid arthritis,
> Reiter's Syndrome, Psoriatic Arthritis, Ankylosing spondylitis, and DISH
> are
> autoimmune.  Osteoarthritis is the NON-inflammatory disorder of moveable
> joints.
>
> I eat paleo and still have osteoarthritis with the same level of discomfort
> as if I ate grains - so, no, based on my own personal experiences,
> osteoarthritis is NOT linked with diet (as the article infers) - dental
> diseases, yup, that is related to diet from the bacteria in our mouth.
>
> Sarah
>
> Sarah Krans
> student, MSc in Paleopathology
> Durham University
> St. Chad's College
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paleolithic Eating Support List [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ]
> On Behalf Of June Kamerling
> Sent: 24 February 2013 20:25
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Ancient Tooth Plaque Reveals Dietary Decline
>
> HI Sarah,
> I've always heard that arthritis was only detected in human bones after the
> age of agriculture.
> Is this not true? It would make sense that it IS true since so much
> "arthritis type pain" vanishes when a strict paleo protocol is followed. As
> an autoimmune disorder it would also make sense that arthritis is caused by
> an inflamed gut/ie: an inflammatory diet such as one with grains.
> Your thoughts, based on what you know in your field???
> Thanks, June
>

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