In a message dated 98-06-15 13:24:56 EDT, you write:

<< Fat and meat consumption is at an all-time low and obesity is at an
 all-time high .... hmmm...it amazes me that intelligent people can't see
 that there's a causal connection, or at least wonder if there's one.
  >>

Why don't people differentiate between cooked and raw carbohydrates.  I ate
tons of carbs when I was a raw vegan and I was a stick.

aaron